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jyuan_us
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Wenjer Leuschel wrote:
abinitio wrote:
好吧，我收回“低级错误”的讲法，坚持“常见错误”
其实，我犯过不少低级错误，甚至在中文里也会说出“我的内人、我的拙荆”之类的言语，还会“颤巍巍地做翻译”－－这下你知道我有多么老资格吧？
有些帶典故的詞太X蛋, 沒到大學古文的程度永遠用不對,那就把大家都用錯得當正確的用吧.
還有很多當代的詞也是老被用錯,早晚的事,錯了就變成對的了:
比如:棘手很多人說辣手.
物色很多人說目測.
現在目前, 這兩個詞,本來是任選,但現在目前很多人把現在目前連著說.
7月流火多數人理解為很熱.
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Wenjer Leuschel wrote:
jyuan_us wrote:
對了大哥說了不要再這樣
謝謝STEVE 和WENJOR,動作那么快, 一個BLINK OF EYES的功夫就解決了.
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Wenjer,
"扯铃" 还是第一次听说. 大陆一般叫 "抖空竹".
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wherestip
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| English: it's a tricky language | Mar 31, 2008 |
- even for native speakers
I was talking with a colleague yesterday about how we needed to clarify some details with a sales prospect. He suggested that I should
"Call him out and feel him up. No, no, - call him up and feel him out, that's what I meant to say "
That slight transposition makes a great difference to the meaning
The first suggestion would definitely lose the sale and probably get me arrested, the other approach should provide me with the information I needed.
http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=73521
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| Now, take it easy! | Mar 31, 2008 |
wherestip wrote:
- even for native speakers
I was talking with a colleague yesterday about how we needed to clarify some details with a sales prospect. He suggested that I should
"Call him out and feel him up. No, no, - call him up and feel him out, that's what I meant to say "
That slight transposition makes a great difference to the meaning
The first suggestion would definitely lose the sale and probably get me arrested, the other approach should provide me with the information I needed.
Since we have designated languages in this forum, I would like to introduce a German saying, but in English: The Germans used to say, "Deutsch ist eine schwierige Sprache. (German is a difficult language.)" When I lived in Germany, my German friends used to tell me this, when I made mistakes in expressing my self, such as having the prepositions "up" and "out" wrongly placed.
The same things happen to other languages, too. We know that when a foreigner who happens to have learned sufficient Chinese trying to express himself in vain. Well, as natives we do make mistakes. How can we expect non-natives to be perfect in Chinese. We are not perfect in Chinese after all. So, there must be some tolerance, if we know what a non-native really means. If we don't have such a tolerance, we are not entitled to maintain that we are translators, since we know that even natives do make mistakes.
[Edited at 2008-03-31 15:23]
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Wenjer Leuschel wrote:
Now, take it easy!
Wenjer,
That example was more a slip of the tongue than anything else.
Usually when people say "English is a tricky language", they're just trying to be humorous. Native speakers really don't struggle with idioms like this. 
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wherestip wrote:
Wenjer,
"扯铃" 还是第一次听说. 大陆一般叫 "抖空竹".
台湾的语言和中国大陆的语言确实已经有了不少差异，要不是我们还能在这里交流，不用多久，我说的话再也没有中国人听懂了。很值得感谢，大哥没有太多的介入。
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Wenjer Leuschel wrote:
wherestip wrote:
Wenjer,
"扯铃" 还是第一次听说. 大陆一般叫 "抖空竹".
台湾的语言和中国大陆的语言确实已经有了不少差异，要不是我们还能在这里交流，不用多久，我说的话再也没有中国人听懂了。很值得感谢，大哥没有太多的介入。
中国上古时代的角抵戏,就是最早的杂技.相传人民跳舞的时候,身披兽皮,头上戴着尖锐的牛角,三三两两,成群结队在战鼓中互相抵触,作战斗的表演.又有一个拟兽舞,你收的装扮,恐怖的怪面,狂噪的叫喊,威吓的动作,都是原始时代狩猎搏斗的摹写.这些都是我国古代舞蹈,杂技,戏剧的最初的一页.
时至周秦,角抵戏,又逐渐演变为两人表演的角力,可称为近日"相扑"或摔跤的雏形.后来较低稀有演变为宫廷娱乐和民间的体育活动,具有了表演的性质.
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唐代是我国封建社会的鼎盛时期.随着经济文化的高涨,杂技也得到了空前的发展.唐玄宗本人就是一个艺术家,他善音律又会演奏羯鼓.每逢生日饮宴,就在兴庆宫勤政楼前举行盛大的音乐,歌舞,杂技表演."唐诗记事"就曾记载当时杂技表演的动人情景:有一个称王大娘的女子,额头上顶着百尺长竿,竿上再顶着一座木山,形状象传说中的瀛洲方丈.有一小孩手拿着符节在木山上唱歌跳舞."封氏闻见记"一书也有一段关于绳技的精彩描写:表演者将绳子两端系在滑轮上,用数丈高的柱子撑起,绳直如弓弦.然后表演的女伎自绳端而上,她们走在一条细细的绳子上,动作自如,好象翩翩起舞的仙子.有时两人侧身而过,有时容地作着各种动作,又有时在表演者的肩上再登上三,四重人,忽然翻倒,但竟没有一个人迭下来.而且她们的动作又都恰合着音乐的节拍.请看,今天舞台上表演的'走钢丝',能有昔日的惊险动人吗?
王永宽等,'祖国',中国青年出版社,北京,1983
Wenjer
Is Taiwanese acrobatics the same as the acrobatics on the mainland, or different?
[Edited at 2008-04-01 09:05]
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倒是称之为“扯铃”，且分“扯哑铃”（不是健身房的哑铃，非但扯不动，还会伤身体）和“扯响铃”。响铃底座空心，边沿有孔，扯动时呼呼作响。
wherestip wrote:
Wenjer,
"扯铃" 还是第一次听说. 大陆一般叫 "抖空竹".
[Edited at 2008-04-01 01:27]
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"下堂"换了今天就是“下课”吧。
Wenjer Leuschel wrote:
... 在中文里也会说出“我的内人、我的拙荆”之类的言语...
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wherestip
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abinitio wrote:
上海话
倒是称之为“扯铃”，且分“扯哑铃”（不是健身房的哑铃，非但扯不动，还会伤身体）和“扯响铃”。响铃底座空心，边沿有孔，扯动时呼呼作响。
wherestip wrote:
Wenjer,
"扯铃" 还是第一次听说. 大陆一般叫 "抖空竹".
abinitio,
Thanks for pointing that out. I guess the naming of 抖空竹 is only limited to the Northern part of China then.
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TOPIC STARTER | 你們記得一個朝鮮大片叫“雜技英豪”嗎﹖ | Apr 1, 2008 |
wherestip wrote:
abinitio wrote:
上海话
倒是称之为“扯铃”，且分“扯哑铃”（不是健身房的哑铃，非但扯不动，还会伤身体）和“扯响铃”。响铃底座空心，边沿有孔，扯动时呼呼作响。
wherestip wrote:
Wenjer,
"扯铃" 还是第一次听说. 大陆一般叫 "抖空竹".
abinitio,
Thanks for pointing that out. I guess the naming of 抖空竹 is only limited to the Northern part of China then.
演那個片子時﹐這裡很多人包括青島那個﹐杭州那個﹐新加坡那個﹐法國那個﹐都還沒生呢。光說雜技和電影﹐那時北韓比我們不差。
要能找來看看就好了。
[Edited at 2008-04-01 02:29]
| | | | wherestip
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jyuan_us wrote:
你們記得一個朝鮮大片叫“雜技英豪”嗎﹖
我不记得. 不过在网上找了一下. 找到这部电影, 不知你指的是不是这个?
http://www.greenworm.com/loverindream/story/18.htm
1972年，她与任意之、朱枫联合执导《杂技英豪》。翌年，香港长城影业公司来京拍摄大型纪录片《万紫千红》，她是导演之一。该片以新颖、独特的风格，明朗、洗练的画面和富有文采的解说词，博得了广大观众的好评。
[Edited at 2008-04-01 03:11]
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