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This forum topic is for the discussion of the poll question "Do you admit/vet outsourcers depending on their country of origin?".
This poll was originally submitted by Natalia Pedrosa. View the poll results »
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I don’t discriminate, so if I decide to work or not with a client doesn’t depend on the country of the origin, but on the fact that he/she accepts my rates...
| | | | Iulia Parvu 
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:00
Member (2022)
English to Romanian
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This decision is not driven by any discriminatory factors tied to location or, God forbid, ethnicity. However, previous experiences have shown that outsourcers from specific regions tend to resist paying the requested price and expect availability during unconventional hours. To avoid unnecessary challenges in my life, I opt not to collaborate with them.
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Iulia Parvu wrote:
This decision is not driven by any discriminatory factors tied to location or, God forbid, ethnicity. However, previous experiences have shown that outsourcers from specific regions tend to resist paying the requested price and expect availability during unconventional hours. To avoid unnecessary challenges in my life, I opt not to collaborate with them.
Yes, I've read some translation services contracts with plenty and huge red flags.
Regardless of the country of origin, that's an immediate "No-No" for me.
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My decision is not based on any kind of discrimination, but during my career I have seen the following:
1) potential clients from a specific country usually tend to ask for quick turnaround for all the test process but then no real work is sent
2) clients from another specific country disappeared after the delivery (100%)
3) clients from another specific country always asked to reduce my rates
Then, I do not close the door, but after a quick contact (cases no. 1 an... See more My decision is not based on any kind of discrimination, but during my career I have seen the following:
1) potential clients from a specific country usually tend to ask for quick turnaround for all the test process but then no real work is sent
2) clients from another specific country disappeared after the delivery (100%)
3) clients from another specific country always asked to reduce my rates
Then, I do not close the door, but after a quick contact (cases no. 1 and 3) I do not expect much from them and I let them write lots of emails, and I reply with a simple one: this is my rate, please send any job you might need specifying deadline and rate (and I set my availability per day)
for companies related to case 2) I do not even reply. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Noura Tawil
Syria
Local time: 16:00
Member (2013)
English to Arabic
Due to previous experiences for the past 10+ years, I lost my patience towards clients from a few specific countries. Sometimes I decide to give them a chance, but I quickly regret it as the correspondence always comes to the same end, with varying lengths.
So I normally cut the correspondence short with a simple and firm "Sorry, I'm not available". Maybe it's just me, but I find it more considering/polite than "Sorry, I'm not interested" when I had not even received the job details.
| | | | Michael Newton
United States
Local time: 09:00
Japanese to English
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| vet outsourcers | Jul 17, 2023 |
This is known as risk assessment. Therefore: India, China, SE Asia, Middle East, Eastern Europe, Russia and Latin America are out.
| | | | Lieven Malaise
Belgium
Local time: 15:00
Member (2020)
French to Dutch
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I avoid outsourcers outside Europe because of reasons of payment convenience. All my clients, without any exception, pay through wire transfer. No fuss, no fees. This has obviously nothing to do with discrimination.
If need would be, I would of course be willing to reconsider this strategy.
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neilmac
Spain
Local time: 15:00
Spanish to English
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Apart from the usual concerns, mainly because billing clients located outside the EU is a hassle for me. More bother than it's worth.
| | | | Kay Denney
France
Local time: 15:00
French to English
I only accept work from clients in the eurozone. I don't want any hassle with exchange rates.
And in fact all my clients are in France. I have worked with a Belgian agency, and a Spanish one, but haven't heard from either since Covid.
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But nobody outside my source language countries would contact me for translations anyway.
| | | | | I don´t usually work for clients in the USA | Jul 18, 2023 |
I tell them that I write British English, and my insurance does not cover any claims IF anything should go wrong.
I have worked occasionally for at least one lovely problem-free American client, but I had trouble early in my career with a big agency that was simply not worth the hassle. I do small jobs, so there is very little margin for bank charges and unpaid administration!
Like others, I am not interested if clients can't pay me by wire transfer. If bank charges are... See more I tell them that I write British English, and my insurance does not cover any claims IF anything should go wrong.
I have worked occasionally for at least one lovely problem-free American client, but I had trouble early in my career with a big agency that was simply not worth the hassle. I do small jobs, so there is very little margin for bank charges and unpaid administration!
Like others, I am not interested if clients can't pay me by wire transfer. If bank charges are involved, then there is very little left for me from the fees many clients will accept.
My source and target languages are spoken outside the Eurozone, so Euros are not in fact my first choice of currency. However, I live in the EU, so they are no big problem. ▲ Collapse
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expressisverbis
Portugal
Local time: 14:00
Member (2015)
English to Portuguese
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| I don't discriminate either | Jul 18, 2023 |
Michael Newton wrote:
This is known as risk assessment. Therefore: India, China, SE Asia, Middle East, Eastern Europe, Russia and Latin America are out.
True, risk assessment is quite important.
One of my first clients was based in the Middle East and had one of their branches in North Africa.
I never had a reason to complain and as well as having an excellent working relationship with them, a nice friendship also grew.
I don't discriminate either, I just refuse to work for anyone who I feel is not honest, when I'm asked to work with absurd rates, CAT tools I don't know/master, expertise fields that I am not comfortable with, confront me with a lot of paperwork to fill in and then don't send any projects and disappear.... in short, I don't work with someone who makes me waste my time with this kind of things.
| | | | | I'm picky about who I work with | Jul 22, 2023 |
I don't accept jobs from Indian, Egyptian, Middle Eastern, Southeast Asian and Chinese agencies simply because they cannot pay what I am offering. No ethnic discrimination. Pure and simple.
[Edited at 2023-07-22 06:40 GMT]
| | | | Samuel Murray
Netherlands
Local time: 15:00
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
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No, but I do offer different rates depending on the agency's country of origin.
If I'm very busy, then I might ignore emails from China and India (i.e. spend less time on responding to them), but I don't refuse to consider agencies from those countries as a rule.
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