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请教国内的同仁:Moneybookers可以通过Visa卡去除取款限制,并转钱到visa卡上吗?
Thread poster: Han Li
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这里指哪个国际组织? Jul 22, 2006

我感觉欧洲的银行系统比国内正规得多,也没这种问题。

据我个人看法,还是国内银行系统与国际接轨问题,找个理由就把这个问题推了。

Last Hermit wrote:

  MB和ikobo.com是国际组织不认证的机构,所以无法进行任何交易。



 
Jianjun Zhang
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呵呵! Jul 22, 2006

chance wrote:

你要是看了我的帖子才在招商开的户,也得交咨询费,因为你常帮我忙,可以考虑优惠

我刚刚看到这是和我说的!我原本以为跟韩立说的呢。Chance 大姐,韩立才是刚开的户呢,我可是天津市招行的第一批用户,卡号是 0022 开头的,不过前两天咨询银行,说这种不带“银联”标志的卡,编号也不统一,境外使用会有麻烦,所以赶快换了一张。


 
Last Hermit
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PP好办,MB有进没出 Jul 22, 2006

  把钱全部提出来,然后注销,重新注册一个即可。俺原来用大陆同胞身份注册,但后来申请了香港银行帐户后,就把原来的PP帐号注销,立即开一个香港的。当然,谁也不会让你注册两个帐户的。

  但MB则不同,跟黑社会似的,欢迎你进来,不欢迎你出去。信用卡也是,最多四个,无法再加,而想去掉原先输入的,也是没门。

Han Li wrote:

我以前认为,一个名字注册两个账户,一个收美元,一个收欧元,结果,后注册的帐户被自动封掉,似乎PP也不能用一个名字注册两个账户,记不太清了。
建军和chance大姐都是热心人。:-)

[Edited at 2006-07-17 15:16]

[Edited at 2006-07-17 15:17]


 
Jianjun Zhang
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我想... Jul 22, 2006

chance wrote:

我感觉欧洲的银行系统比国内正规得多,也没这种问题。

据我个人看法,还是国内银行系统与国际接轨问题,找个理由就把这个问题推了。

Last Hermit wrote:

  MB和ikobo.com是国际组织不认证的机构,所以无法进行任何交易。


ICBC 或根本不知道这两家公司是什么,或回答有误,因为国际组织 Visa 和 MasterCard 在中国境外比如欧洲,就不限制信用卡在这些网站的使用。我翻了翻信箱,把那封老信找了出来:

As for the failed deposit attempts with your credit card, according to the error message that we receive regarding the failed deposits with your credit card the bank which has issued the card did not allow the transactions. Since the credit card transactions through our site are described as electronic stored value and the requests to the credit card institute are accompanied by a gaming code some credit card institutes put limitations on such payments and do not allow the transactions to be processed. We would like therefore to recommend that you contact your card issuer and ask if there are some limitations set for your credit card and why those particular payments have been rejected. Please mention the exact date of the failed deposits to Moneybookers in order to have relevant report by the bank.


 
chance (X)
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建军: Jul 22, 2006

我还是想试试PP在中国的提款,可是如果不注册,就 找不到如何提款的说明页?!

 
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直接给他们发邮件要求是否可以? Jul 22, 2006

我遇到的问题是原先的老邮件地址,已无效,但是不能删除了。好在每个账号一共可以有5个邮件地址。

Last Hermit wrote:

 
  但MB则不同,跟黑社会似的,欢迎你进来,不欢迎你出去。信用卡也是,最多四个,无法再加,而想去掉原先输入的,也是没门。



 
Last Hermit
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估计是说Visa Jul 22, 2006

  目前工行只做Visa认证。但也有可能是,MB没和银联认可的一个国际银行组织达成协议或什么--最重要的是,钱没谈妥,所以,认为是“高危网站”,不予授权交易。



  另,工商国际卡默认不许进行国际交易,必须打电话给95588提供所有有关信息,才能开通。可随时开通或关闭。但这个门道,俺今天摸了几个小时才找到!

 
牡丹卡网购小贴�
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  目前工行只做Visa认证。但也有可能是,MB没和银联认可的一个国际银行组织达成协议或什么--最重要的是,钱没谈妥,所以,认为是“高危网站”,不予授权交易。



  另,工商国际卡默认不许进行国际交易,必须打电话给95588提供所有有关信息,才能开通。可随时开通或关闭。但这个门道,俺今天摸了几个小时才找到!

 
牡丹卡网购小贴士



  如果您准备在境外的网上商城购买商品,并且想使用牡丹国际信用卡进行在线支付,您需要先致电工行的客户服务电话95588转人工服务,开通境外在线支付功能后才能正常使用。

  如果您持有工行的境内单币种牡丹信用卡,则只可在国内的网上商城在线支付购物。

  您使用牡丹卡在网上商城消费后,如果您曾经定制过余额变动提醒服务,您将会在第一时间收到手机短信提醒服务,随时了解自己的账户资金变动的情况。您还可以通过个人网上银行享受到牡丹卡人民币还款以及国际卡购汇还款服务,以便于随时归还您的透支款项;您还可以在个人网上银行设置牡丹卡自动还款功能,通过此功能可以自动归还您的信用卡欠款,避免您被罚息的风险。您也可以通过个人网上银行查询您的牡丹卡消费积分网银积分以及察看您的牡丹国际卡年终结算清单。这些服务不仅简便、快捷,还使您足不出户就可以办理以前只能在营业网点才能办理的业务,让您随时掌握自己的资金流动情况。

 

chance wrote:

我感觉欧洲的银行系统比国内正规得多,也没这种问题。

据我个人看法,还是国内银行系统与国际接轨问题,找个理由就把这个问题推了。

Last Hermit wrote:

  MB和ikobo.com是国际组织不认证的机构,所以无法进行任何交易。



[Edited at 2006-07-22 10:14]
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chance (X)
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终于找到了! Jul 22, 2006

但是没有香港账号还是不能试,这些程序一定要亲自过一两遍才能搞得清。

chance wrote:

我还是想试试PP在中国的提款,可是如果不注册,就 找不到如何提款的说明页?!


[Edited at 2006-07-22 10:18]


 
Last Hermit
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A possible workaround for Jul 24, 2006

Mainland-based credit card verification at MB

Just found this in one of emails:
**************************
You have recently attempted to register a credit card with our service. In accordance with our security procedures, we need to verify your identity before we allow you to make transactions with this credit card through our site:

Submit clear and readable copies of the following documents to us:

(i) the front and back of the credit card; AN
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Mainland-based credit card verification at MB

Just found this in one of emails:
**************************
You have recently attempted to register a credit card with our service. In accordance with our security procedures, we need to verify your identity before we allow you to make transactions with this credit card through our site:

Submit clear and readable copies of the following documents to us:

(i) the front and back of the credit card; AND
(ii) recent credit card statement signed by the credit card owner (purchase or
ATM advice slips cannot be accepted); AND
(iii) valid official identification document with picture (such as ID card,
passport or driver's license).

Via email: Send a scan copy to [email protected] (JPEG or GIF file
formats only with a maximum size of 364KB per page)

Will keep you guys informed.

[Edited at 2006-07-24 13:24]
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Xu Dongjun
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两地一卡通 Jul 24, 2006

我现在开始关注redred说的那个招行两地一卡通了。。。看到底能不能把PP上的钱取出来

 
chance (X)
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MB直接withdraw到你的銀行賬號就可以了﹐ Jul 24, 2006

為什么非要withdraw 到你的卡上呢﹖

我們這裡可以用VISA卡直接提款﹐中國好像還不行﹕http://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=fees


[Edited at 2006-07-24 13:51]


 
Zhoudan
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那个办法行不行得通,都告诉我们一声 Jul 24, 2006



stonejohn wrote:

我现在开始关注redred说的那个招行两地一卡通了。。。看到底能不能把PP上的钱取出来


 
Last Hermit
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方便日后出国旅行^)^ Jul 24, 2006

  但再想一下,就算通过验证恐怕下载到卡上时同样会给工行拦住。因为既然人家视你为危险网站,那除了不给钱出外,应该也不给钱进,这样才安全。

  另,我已写信给MB,问他们可不可以让我关闭现有的帐户,然后重开一个新的,通过这种办法来换币种。但我想也是没戏的。

chance wrote:

為什么非要withdraw 到你的卡上呢﹖

我們這裡可以用VISA卡直接提款﹐中國好像還不行﹕http://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=fees


[Edited at 2006-07-24 13:51]


 
chance (X)
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啊哈! Jul 24, 2006

用香港的VISA卡也不行吗?如果不行,你就去招商开一个账号,当你从MB提款时,招商会自动在你的账号下,给你开一个外汇账号。当你有了外汇,应该可以办一个银联VISA卡。

我刚才到MB查了,在我的账号页里,也可以增加我在其它国家的银行账号,包括中国的银行账号。

我都在论坛说过好几次了,再有人搞不清,要收高额咨询费了... See more
用香港的VISA卡也不行吗?如果不行,你就去招商开一个账号,当你从MB提款时,招商会自动在你的账号下,给你开一个外汇账号。当你有了外汇,应该可以办一个银联VISA卡。

我刚才到MB查了,在我的账号页里,也可以增加我在其它国家的银行账号,包括中国的银行账号。

我都在论坛说过好几次了,再有人搞不清,要收高额咨询费了,我可是认真的

Last Hermit wrote:

方便日后出国旅行^)^


[Edited at 2006-07-24 15:17]

[Edited at 2006-07-24 15:31]
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chance (X)
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等你到了美國再開個賬號就都取出來了 Jul 24, 2006


Zhoudan wrote:

那个办法行不行得通,都告诉我们一声

stonejohn wrote:

我现在开始关注redred说的那个招行两地一卡通了。。。看到底能不能把PP上的钱取出来


[Edited at 2006-07-24 15:40]


 
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