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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

constituyéndolo a los fines procesales

English translation:

establishing domicile ad litem {or by choice}[jointly with...]

Added to glossary by Claire Culliford
Oct 8, 2009 08:00
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Spanish term

constituyéndolo a los fines procesales

Spanish to English Law/Patents Law (general) Divorce decree
The phrase comes towards the start of a divorce decree and in full reads:

XXXXXXX, por derecho propio, con domicilio real in YYYYYYYY, constituyéndolo a los fines procesales conjuntamente con la letrada patrocinante ZZZZZZZZ.
Proposed translations (English)
5 +1 establishing domicile ad litem {or by choice}[jointly with...]
4 duly represented
4 electing address for service
4 ---legally represented...

Discussion

Claire Culliford (asker) Oct 8, 2009:
Thanks I perhaps had the right meaning, but I do like 'duly represented'. Succinct and legal sounding. Thanks for that!
James A. Walsh Oct 8, 2009:
Yes, I think you're spot-on. Most google references I'm finding of this wording seem to be Argentine. I fully agree we would express it in this way. Perhaps, 'duly represented by...'
Claire Culliford (asker) Oct 8, 2009:
Additional phrases in document Sorry James. Here is some more context. The more I look at this paragraph, the more I become convinced that this is a case of Argentinian (wordiness) and perhaps in English we'd simply say something like 'represented by [name of legal representative] in these proceedings.

Señor Juez:

XXXXXXX, por derecho propio, con domicilio real in YYYYYYYY, constituyéndolo a los fines procesales conjuntamente con la letrada patrocinante ZZZZZZZZ Dra. XXXXXX [Address] y XXXXX, por derecho propio, con domicilio real in YYYYYYYY, constituyendo el legal conjuntamente con la letrada patrocinante Dra. XXXXX [Address], a V.S. dicen:

1. OBJETO........
James A. Walsh Oct 8, 2009:
More context Hi Claire,
Any chance you could post a bit more of the text please? It might inspire us more...<br>The text immediately before and after this passage should help establish what to relate the verb constituir to.

Proposed translations

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establishing domicile ad litem {or by choice}[jointly with...]

From Patricia Mazzucco and Alejandra Maranghello Bilingual Legal Dictionary & Cabanellas Law Dictionary

It refers to the domicile where all the documentation related to the divorce will be delivered.

HTH




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Note added at 6 days (2009-10-14 17:14:44 GMT) Post-grading
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It was a pleasure, Claire :)
Peer comment(s):
agree Seth Phillips : Spot on. Thomas West shows that "Constituir domicilio legal" means "To establish an address for service of notice" (and I realize domicile ad litem is the Latin phrase for this)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for this. In the very formal language of the contract I think this fits most appropriately."
5 hrs

duly represented

This is how I would word it.
Example sentence:

..., duly represented in these proceedings by [name & address of legal representative]

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13 hrs

electing address for service

with or c/o.

A different way of expressing a familiar concept.
Reference:

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/address-for-service.html

Note from asker:
Thanks for this :-) I went with a slightly more formal equivalent, owing to the very formal nature of the document, but this will be very useful for future reference.
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2 days 15 hrs

---legally represented...

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represented in this matter > representado en este acto30 Sep 2009 ... English term or phrase: represented in this matter ... legally represented in this matter by XX XX on the other hand . ...
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Note from asker:
Thanks for this. In the end, I think there was definitely a relationship between this phrase and the addresses to be used for legal correspondence as they were different for each party and put in bold.
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