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Kenneth Woo
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Kenneth Woo wrote:
前輩所言不無道理。倘文章所論為愛滋病傳播途徑，「男女性交」或較「性生活」、「性關係」為宜。
由於醫學已經證明，愛滋病毒是經人類體液傳播，所以只要帶菌者的體液進入對方體內，在性行為中，毋需經過交媾（性器官的交接），也可以通過性器官的接觸，無意中進入對方體內造成感染。因此，不一定要性 “交” sexual intercourse 才會被傳染到愛滋病。 一般譯成 “性接觸“ ，有其箇中道理。
於此以愛滋病為例，因為 ”性行為“ 可分多種，範圍廣泛，有交媾或不交媾等，所以用 ”男女性行為／性接觸“ 比 ”性交“、 ”性生活“ 或 ”性關係“ 更能準確表達愛滋病的傳播途徑，且適合語境及相關醫學背景。
換句話説，過門不入也會生病，不容輕視其致命的傳染力。
| | | | wherestip
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Kenneth Woo wrote:
前輩所言不無道理。倘文章所論為愛滋病傳播途徑，「男女性交」或較「性生活」、「性關係」為宜。
Indeed, Kenny. If the context is HIV infection, yes, unprotected vaginal sex is one of the common ways the virus is transmitted.
| | | | wherestip
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| Almost simultaneously | Sep 10, 2014 |
David,
What's the chance? We just pressed the "post reply" button milliseconds apart. 
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David Lin
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Moderator of this forum | extremely simultaneously | Sep 10, 2014 |
wherestip wrote:
David,
What's the chance? We just pressed the "post reply" button milliseconds apart.
Hi Steve,
Is it something called "telepathic","concomitant" or just "synchronous"? 
| | | | Kenneth Woo
China
Local time: 07:54
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David Lin wrote:
Kenneth Woo wrote:
前輩所言不無道理。倘文章所論為愛滋病傳播途徑，「男女性交」或較「性生活」、「性關係」為宜。
由於醫學已經證明，愛滋病毒是經人類體液傳播，所以只要帶菌者的體液進入對方體內，在性行為中，毋需經過交媾（性器官的交接），也可以通過性器官的接觸，無意中進入對方體內造成感染。因此，不一定要性 “交” sexual intercourse 才會被傳染到愛滋病。 一般譯成 “性接觸“ ，有其箇中道理。
於此以愛滋病為例，因為 ”性行為“ 可分多種，範圍廣泛，有交媾或不交媾等，所以用 ”男女性行為／性接觸“ 比 ”性交“、 ”性生活“ 或 ”性關係“ 更能準確表達愛滋病的傳播途徑，且適合語境及相關醫學背景。
換句話説，過門不入也會生病，不容輕視其致命的傳染力。
Hello David,
According to www.aids.gov, HIV can be transmitted through such body fluids as blood, semen (cum), pre-seminal fluid, rectal fluids, and breast milk. Except for the first and last ones, transmission via the other body fluids always involves a sexual act, whether it is normal vaginal intercourse, oral sex, or anal, and all these to me are different forms of “性交". In other words, I don't think ”性交“ is applicable to penetration-involved vaginal sex only.
Of course, what I said above may be controversial so I still agree that "性接觸" might be a more proper term. Even so, however, a better translation should be "男女性接觸" IMHO.
http://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/how-you-get-hiv-aids/
Edit: Corrections made upon reading Phil's post.
[Edited at 2014-09-11 03:12 GMT]
[Edited at 2014-09-11 03:12 GMT]
| | | | Phil Hand
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哇塞。
看了看kenny的连接，还真有点惊汗，对我来说“cum"这一说（特别是这个拼法）非常低俗，政府部门在门户网站上这么写还让我感到尴尬，但对医生来说唯一重要的就是让目标读者群体读懂。这种沟通精神值得我们翻译行佩服一下。
另外，我非常欣赏kenny的一个错别字：“virginal intercourse”是一种奇迹！
（不好意思，我并不想挑剔别人的错别字，自己的错误已经够多，只是这次太巧了！）
| | | | Kenneth Woo
China
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TOPIC STARTER | Have corrected the typos | Sep 11, 2014 |
Phil Hand wrote:
另外，我非常欣赏kenny的一个错别字：“virginal intercourse”是一种奇迹！
（不好意思，我并不想挑剔别人的错别字，自己的错误已经够多，只是这次太巧了！）
This is embarrassing. Thanks for pointing it out. : )
Edit: 這也說明英文形近之字多，易寫錯。
[Edited at 2014-09-11 03:16 GMT]
[Edited at 2014-09-11 03:17 GMT]
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Rita Pang
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Moderator of this forum | Pointing out typos... | Sep 11, 2014 |
Kenneth Woo wrote:
Phil Hand wrote:
哇塞。
看了看kenny的连接，还真有点惊汗，对我来说“cum"这一说（特别是这个拼法）非常低俗，政府部门在门户网站上这么写还让我感到尴尬，但对医生来说唯一重要的就是让目标读者群体读懂。这种沟通精神值得我们翻译行佩服一下。
另外，我非常欣赏kenny的一个错别字：“virginal intercourse”是一种奇迹！
（不好意思，我并不想挑剔别人的错别字，自己的错误已经够多，只是这次太巧了！）
This is embarrassing. Thanks for pointing it out. : )
Usually make people upset, especially in our field of work. I gotta say though, Kenneth you've done a good job at putting a smile on everyone's face- in a nice way! This is by no means an insult! This seriously is funny stuff
The word “cum" - this actually appears pretty often on a lot of government publications in Hong Kong. It has absolutely no sexual connotation at all though often illicit a good laugh from my American friends. I think it's a British English thing (Phil, care to clarify)? More than once I've seen the word used in the sense of "also" - like "Meeting A for the purpose of ABC and also for the celebration of XYZ".
See below:
http://www.edb.gov.hk/en/curriculum-development/kla/arts-edu/references/va-ref004/HKISAC.html
[Edited at 2014-09-11 03:20 GMT]
| | | | Phil Hand
China
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| cum from Latin, I think | Sep 11, 2014 |
Oh, yeah, that meaning is perfectly fine, slightly formal English. Something like the Chinese 兼 when an event serves two simultaneous purposes. I guess it comes from some Latin, but I'm not really sure. (Wikipedia says: "An English linking word, derived from the Latin word for 'with.'") I assume Americans don't use it much.
I meant when "come" is used as a verb meaning ejaculate, or as a noun for semen, that's slangy. And in the UK we still mostly use the c-o-m-e spelling. So we n... See more Oh, yeah, that meaning is perfectly fine, slightly formal English. Something like the Chinese 兼 when an event serves two simultaneous purposes. I guess it comes from some Latin, but I'm not really sure. (Wikipedia says: "An English linking word, derived from the Latin word for 'with.'") I assume Americans don't use it much.
I meant when "come" is used as a verb meaning ejaculate, or as a noun for semen, that's slangy. And in the UK we still mostly use the c-o-m-e spelling. So we normally see the c-u-m spelling on American porn, I guess, and that's why it has particularly "dirty" connotations for me. But whatever the connotations, I think it's good language work by the doctors who write those webpages. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Kenneth Woo
China
Local time: 07:54
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TOPIC STARTER | a good way to learn | Sep 11, 2014 |
Rita wrote:
Usually make people upset, especially in our field of work. I gotta say though, Kenneth you've done a good job at putting a smile on everyone's face- in a nice way! This is by no means an insult! This seriously is funny stuff
Rita,
Thanks for your comment.
Speaking of mistakes, I really don't think there should be any good reason for people to get mad at their being pointed out. Quite on the contrary, they should be glad because to ... See more Rita wrote:
Usually make people upset, especially in our field of work. I gotta say though, Kenneth you've done a good job at putting a smile on everyone's face- in a nice way! This is by no means an insult! This seriously is funny stuff
Rita,
Thanks for your comment.
Speaking of mistakes, I really don't think there should be any good reason for people to get mad at their being pointed out. Quite on the contrary, they should be glad because to avoid mistakes, the first thing that should be done is to admit to them.
Edit: Just adding that I laughed too. haha. The mistake really has some comical effects.
[Edited at 2014-09-11 04:18 GMT] ▲ Collapse
| | | | Kenneth Woo
China
Local time: 07:54
English to Chinese
TOPIC STARTER
現在怎麼都用「國際學生」，「留學生」反而棄而不用了？
見過很多人把逗號當頓號用，今天還見到有人把分號當頓號用。我真是跟不上時代了。
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