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谁来谈谈北京翻译职业大会的情况吧 Thread poster: Shouguang Cao
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ysun 
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Alan Wang wrote:
I don't really need to be taught a lesson on not using abusive language unless someone want to make a point. What is the point?
I wished that I have made it in an american idol show, that way perhaps it would have made some prudes laugh instead of feeling sorry for me.
What is the point? Do you really want me to make it more evident?
As to “american idol”, it sounds so familiar. Perhaps, those are the words you parroted from "an idol" who has been prohibited forever from speaking in this forum due to serious violations of the site rules. 
[Edited at 2010-06-10 16:19 GMT]
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Alan Wang
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ysun wrote:
Alan Wang wrote:
I don't really need to be taught a lesson on not using abusive language unless someone want to make a point. What is the point?
I wished that I have made it in an american idol show, that way perhaps it would have made some prudes laugh instead of feeling sorry for me.
What is the point? Do you really want me to make it more evident?
As to “american idol”, it sounds so familiar. Perhaps, those are the words you parroted from "an idol" who has been prohibited forever from speaking in this forum.
[Edited at 2010-06-10 16:13 GMT]
What you are talking about, 孙大师？
I can see you are not a fan of American Idol.
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ysun
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Alan Wang
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I have noticed that you have some curious kind of obsession.
It's more than "figure large".
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ysun
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| Needless to say | Jun 10, 2010 |
Alan Wang wrote:
我现在还认为我的测试稿比对方采用的要好。这个我坚持...
Alan Wang wrote:
I have noticed that you have some curious kind of obsession.
It's more than "figure large".
哈哈！
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Alan Wang
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| inordinate obsession | Jun 10, 2010 |
ysun wrote:
Alan Wang wrote:
我现在还认为我的测试稿比对方采用的要好。这个我坚持...
Alan Wang wrote:
I have noticed that you have some curious kind of obsession.
It's more than "figure large".
哈哈！
Figure large could mean obsession in a lesser degree, while an obsession could be more inordinate.
Please ask wherestip if I could possible be right.
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ysun
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wherestip
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| staying on topic | Jun 11, 2010 |
dumont,
I agree with Yueyin. To avoid continuously straying off the main topic of this thread, as you yourself objected to, it would be much better to move this discussion to any of the above threads you started some time ago.
Alan Wang wrote:
Figure large could mean obsession in a lesser degree, while an obsession could be more inordinate.
Please ask wherestip if I could possible be right.
And BTW, dumont, if you were serious about the above, could you kindly rephrase what you wanted to ask me about? And this time in some type of language I could understand, please.
[Edited at 2010-06-11 13:45 GMT]
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Xu Dongjun
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| Dallas开这么好的帖，可惜了！ | Jun 11, 2010 |
可惜了！
wherestip wrote:
dumont,
I agree with Yueyin. To avoid continuously straying off the main topic of this thread, as you yourself objected to, it would be much better to move this discussion to any of the above threads you started some time ago.
Alan Wang wrote:
Figure large could mean obsession in a lesser degree, while an obsession could be more inordinate.
Please ask wherestip if I could possible be right.
And BTW, dumont, if you were serious about the above, could you kindly rephrase what you wanted to ask me about? And this time in some type of language I could understand, please.
[Edited at 2010-06-11 13:45 GMT]
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wherestip
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stonejohn wrote:
Dallas开这么好的帖，可惜了！
可惜了！
I take responsibility for sidetracking off the main topic by making the comment on the other translation website. For that I apologize to everyone.
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Alan Wang
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| I will oblige :) | Jun 11, 2010 |
wherestip:
I know you sometimes cannot resist the temptation to lash out at people, people you for whatever reason dislike, barely know (for example, how much do you know the site owner?) or have had a history with, who have no proper defense for themselves due to various reasons such as they are not present.
Fortunately, I am here. And I don’t like to be painted as you would like to paint me into without an objection. I am sure you can understand that.
Tried ... See more wherestip:
I know you sometimes cannot resist the temptation to lash out at people, people you for whatever reason dislike, barely know (for example, how much do you know the site owner?) or have had a history with, who have no proper defense for themselves due to various reasons such as they are not present.
Fortunately, I am here. And I don’t like to be painted as you would like to paint me into without an objection. I am sure you can understand that.
Tried as I have to play the game with a light heart, such as when you talking about my activity at that site you say "it figures" (contemptuously, you forget being civil), I pretended to believe you are preoccupied with my name only (figure large) and not preoccupied with painting me into an ugly corner at the slightest chance.
Well, that goes. You will understand what I mean. If not, read the following.
I think there is an (inordinate) obsession with someone in connection with someone who has been banned.
So it goes: "Figure large is not as good as that obsession" or perhaps the poorer version: Figure large could mean obsession in a lesser degree, while an obsession could be more inordinate. ▲ Collapse
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ysun
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wherestip wrote:
Rules and regulations of a professional website
lbone wrote:
译网非常老资格
2001年就办了。
资格老可不一定就好. 有时间可以看看 dumont 在 "译网情深" 发起的那一串讨论. 不少发言中不乏无缘无故恶语诋毁他人、骂大街等做法, 可以说是毫无约束、一点也不负责任. 当初 dumont 将话题转到此论坛请大家评论时, 我曾从头到尾阅读了 "译网情深" 的那一串讨论. 那可真让我大开了一场眼界(in a negative way, that is).
我认为这种不良现象与网站的制度不健全和管理不善是有直接关系的.
[Edited at 2010-06-05 20:39 GMT]
wherestip 的以上讲话并无任何不妥，从中也看不出有任何批评 dumont 的意思。他所谓的“不少发言”指的是"译网情深"论坛上个别人的发言，并没有挑明是谁的“不少发言”。前面 Donglai 从北京翻译职业大会讲到“译网情深韦忠和：网络和翻译社区建设”。然后，wherestip 接着讲“译网情深”那里的“不良现象与网站的制度不健全和管理不善是有直接关系的”。到那时为止，并没有跑题。如果说后来跑题了，那就是因为有人竭力想找碴，甚至到现在还不愿善罢甘休。在"译网情深"论坛上，我也看到几位常在 Proz.com 这里露面的同仁。他们的发言还是很文明。可见，关健在于人的自身修养，而不在于在什么环境下说话，不在于是否有人管。我尤其佩服的是那位被骂的女士。被人骂得狗血喷头了，照样还能保持自己的风度。
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ysun
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Alan Wang wrote:
I think there is an (inordinate) obsession with someone in connection with someone who has been banned.
dumont,
大家都在叫停，你怎么还没完没了？
到底是什么人有 "an inordinate obsession"，看看下面这些话就可知道了：
http://www.proz.com/post/1519930#1519930
Donglai Lou wrote:
虽然这位同仁最终被终止了Proz的部分使用资格，但是他仍在不断地对这个论坛施加场外影响。特别是，当一些同仁在proz上有些不愉快的经历后，他似乎都会积极地与他们联系。当然这是他的权力，我也无意交涉这些同仁与他的交往。只是希望同仁们能够较客观地，有逻辑、有主见地看待问题，不要妨碍自己参与这个社群，从中获益的热情。这种益处有时不仅仅是经济利益或问题求助，还有友情、精神的愉悦等等。
http://www.proz.com/post/990283#990283
Alan Wang wrote:
不过我等小鱼，刚入论坛，也不太在乎嗟来之食。顺便说一句，如果你有的话，需要我山呼万岁都可以:D. 至于那个闹的很大的插曲又是什么呢？花边新闻，吾之所好。Your used-pants metaphor isn’t making a clear sense to me.
[Edited at 2008-11-13 03:59]
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wherestip
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| misunderstanding | Jun 11, 2010 |
ysun wrote:
wherestip 的以上讲话并无任何不妥，从中也看不出有任何批评 dumont 的意思。他所谓的“不少发言”指的是"译网情深"论坛上个别人的发言，并没有挑明是谁的“不少发言”。前面 Donglai 从北京翻译职业大会讲到“译网情深韦忠和：网络和翻译社区建设”。然后，wherestip 接着讲“译网情深”那里的“不良现象与网站的制度不健全和管理不善是有直接关系的”。到那时为止，并没有跑题。如果说后来跑题了，那就是因为有人竭力想找碴，甚至到现在还不愿善罢甘休。在"译网情深"论坛上，我也看到几位常在 Proz.com 这里露面的同仁。他们的发言还是很文明。可见，关健在于人的自身修养，而不在于在什么环境下说话，不在于是否有人管。我尤其佩服的是那位被骂的女士。被人骂得狗血喷头了，照样还能保持自己的风度。
Yueyin,
I appreciate you explaining what happened on my behalf. I'm sure a lot of people see it the same way.
lbone, for example, didn't have any problem understanding what the expression "That figures" meant in this context. I wasn't in anyway trying to be mean to, or lash out at anyone.
But since there was some confusion, perhaps due to the English idiom I used, I'm willing to take the responsibility for this misunderstanding.
[Edited at 2010-06-12 13:15 GMT]
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redred
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| State-owned entity in Capitalist Society | Jun 12, 2010 |
Donglai Lou wrote:
1. 国内自行组建的翻译团队还真不少，但这些团队大多还是从翻译公司接活。
2. 国内翻译公司认为，国际翻译公司从直接客户处竞标的价值也只有10－15美分/单词。（这与我获知的情况不太一样，澳洲国营公司收1元每词，中型公司收33分至40分每词，小型公司收15到20分每词）。
澳洲会有国营（国有）公司？很少听闻。只能叫政府部门。
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