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有趣的词语省略写法：ac(et)ylation Thread poster: nigerose
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nigerose 
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TOPIC STARTER | only for discussion | Jan 16, 2009 |
I posted "ac(et)ylation" here only because I find it interesting and want people here to discuss on it.
As a patent translator, I know ac(et)ylation means "acylation (e.g. acetylation)", and although it seems redundant, it is common and necessary in patent documents.
I only thought such a use of bracket might be uncommon, and you prove it to be common. Thank you for all the examples you provide here.
We are changing the subject from commonness to redundanc... See more I posted "ac(et)ylation" here only because I find it interesting and want people here to discuss on it.
As a patent translator, I know ac(et)ylation means "acylation (e.g. acetylation)", and although it seems redundant, it is common and necessary in patent documents.
I only thought such a use of bracket might be uncommon, and you prove it to be common. Thank you for all the examples you provide here.
We are changing the subject from commonness to redundancy.
[修改时间: 2009-01-16 05:22 GMT]
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wherestip
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nigerose wrote:
I posted "ac(et)ylation" here only because I find it interesting and want people here to discuss on it.
As a patent translator, I know ac(et)ylation means "acylation (e.g. acetylation)", and although it seems redundant, it is common and necessary in patent documents.
Discussion doesn't equate to keep shifting the arguments.
Good night/day.
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nigerose
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TOPIC STARTER | subject shift | Jan 16, 2009 |
wherestip wrote:
nigerose wrote:
I posted "ac(et)ylation" here only because I find it interesting and want people here to discuss on it.
As a patent translator, I know ac(et)ylation means "acylation (e.g. acetylation)", and although it seems redundant, it is common and necessary in patent documents.
Discussion doesn't equate to keep shifting the arguments.
Good night/day.
We are changing the subject from commonness to redundancy.
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jyuan_us
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不管它COMMON與否﹐見到了就承認它存在就行了﹐存在就是真理。常用或不常用都不搭嘎。
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ysun
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"ac(et)ylation" 这种“惜墨如金”的写法与大多数专利作者“不厌其详”的写法背道而驰，不应提倡。写专利不必“惜墨如金”。专利之所以“不厌其详”就是为了防止侵权者钻空子。实际上，采用这种不规范写法的人极少，就说明它并未被大多数人接受。
从前面列出的例子来看，ac(et)ylation 后面的 amidations, esterifications...都是统称。一般而言，如果要用统称，那就都应该用统称。所以，“acylations, amidations, esterifications...” 是正确的写法，而“acetylation, amidations, esterifications...” 就不是正确的写法。当然，“acylations (e.g., acetylation), amidations, esterifications...”是可以接受的。
[Edited at 2009-01-17 04:10 GMT]
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nigerose
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多谢老孙的解答。
我做了几年专利翻译，这样的拼写法在专利文件中还真是第一次看到。
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jyuan_us
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能怎么办？要是明白了意思，就按正确的意思翻译；如果没明白，可以到KUDOZ去提问。没有讨论的必要。
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pkchan
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ysun
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连炒股、赌博都有专门开栏讨论的必要，在翻译论坛上讨论翻译问题倒反而没有必要？:D
jyuan_us wrote:
能怎么办？要是明白了意思，就按正确的意思翻译；如果没明白，可以到KUDOZ去提问。没有讨论的必要。
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| 缩写、习惯用语 contraction, abbreviated colloquial or customary usage; idiomatic use | Jan 17, 2009 |
pkchan wrote:
是省略，還是函蓋？
属于缩写嘛？领域的、地方的习惯用语？
primary (agricultural) products 是我们这儿（新西兰、澳洲？）用语的一个例子。实际上初级产品一类更宽，也包括金属初级产品。
我们这儿农业领域‘primary products’ 之传统说法 一般是指肉类、羊毛、乳制品三种出口产品。工业部门领域上可以扩大到包括林业、渔业产品位置。经济学领域就会包括比如钢铁、铝金属初级产品在内。依我看，也可以说语言跟社会与经济、科技发展而发展。
回到原题啊，我猜想一般情况下搞生物化学的把..说成.顺口，到要写专利时两个说法也得表达出来，一个是正式实验室用的，另一个非正式工业或使用科学方面说的。Two different registers.
[Edited at 2009-01-18 07:46 GMT]
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