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Serbian term or phrase:
живопис
English translation:
iconography
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Aleksandar Skobic
Nov 14, 2013 08:00
10 yrs ago
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Serbian term
живопис
Serbian to English
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Religion
Насликао је више од 7.500 слика, преко 13.000 графика и на стотине икона и фресака, урадио је живопис у Цркви Светог Цара Константина и Јелене (Вождовачка црква у Београду), велике изложбе имао је у Паризу, Лондону, Бриселу, Риму ... Његови фантастични сликарски радови налазе се у многобројним светски важним музејима (Музеј Уфици у Фиренци, Ватикански музеј, Гугенхајм у Њујорку, Музеј у Женеви ...).
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| 4 +3 | iconography |
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| 4 | (he painted) the frescoes |
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Nov 18, 2013 10:37: Aleksandar Skobic Created KOG entry
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Извор: Српско-енглески теолошки речник - Хришћански културни центар.
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Tatjana Momirović
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Daryo
: that is tantamount to calling an author an art critic; he didn't study and elaborate theories about the content of other people's paintings - he was the one doing the painting.
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Ево и овде дефиниција: 2) the traditional or conventional images or symbols associated with a subject and especially a religious or legendary subject http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/iconography
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Mira Stepanovic
: http://www.svetosavlje.org/biblioteka/Recnik/EngSrbEng/Lat_E... živopis n. m. - iconography živopisac n. m. - iconographer
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Maja Jovanovic
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majadina
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Serbian term (edited):
урадио је живопис
(he painted) the frescoes
Насликао је више од 7.500 слика, преко 13.000 графика и на стотине икона и фресака, урадио је живопис у Цркви Светог Цара Константина и Јелене (Вождовачка црква у Београду), велике изложбе имао је у Паризу, Лондону, Бриселу, Риму ... Његови фантастични сликарски радови налазе се у многобројним светски важним музејима (Музеј Уфици у Фиренци, Ватикански музеј, Гугенхајм у Њујорку, Музеј у Женеви ...).
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" ... he painted the frescoes / the murals / the mural paintings ... "
In this ST "живопис" means "the frescoes/mural paintings" in the Church of... which is the usual meaning of "живопис те и те цркве".
[http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Beograd/Vlaga-nagriza-zivopis...]
[http://www.spc.rs/sr/protodjakon_radomor_rakitsh_beseda_o_st...]
Милић од Мачве
" ... he painted the frescoes / the murals / the mural paintings ... "
In this ST "живопис" means "the frescoes/mural paintings" in the Church of... which is the usual meaning of "живопис те и те цркве".
[http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Beograd/Vlaga-nagriza-zivopis...]
[http://www.spc.rs/sr/protodjakon_radomor_rakitsh_beseda_o_st...]
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Mira Stepanovic
: Fresco je tehnika zidnog slikarstva: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresco ili http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Фреска
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"freske" (frescoes) su opipljivi / tj. vidljivi rezultat primene tehnike al fresco slikarstva // pogledajte bilo koju monografiju nekog srednjevekovnog srpskog manastira – po zidovima su "freske" koje sve zajedno predstavljaju "živopis" date crkve
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Aleksandar Skobic
: Баш тако, то је техника зидног сликарства, а не живопис.
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zoe1
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Našli ste najbolji link za ovu temu: jasno objašnjeno šta je živopis, šta su freske, šta je ikonografija, iz najrelevantnijeg izvora - SPC! Hvala!
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Reference:
Iconography
Iconography
This article is about iconography in art history. For religious painting in Eastern Christianity, see Icon.
Iconography is the branch of art history which studies the identification, description, and the interpretation of the content of images: the subjects depicted, the particular compositions and details used to do so, and other elements that are distinct from artistic style. The word iconography comes from the Greek εἰκών ("image") and γράφειν ("to write"). A secondary meaning (based on a non-standard translation of the Greek and Russian equivalent terms) is the production of religious images, called icons, in the Byzantine and Orthodox Christian tradition; that is covered at Icon. In art history, "an iconography" may also mean a particular depiction of a subject in terms of the content of the image, such as the number of figures used, their placing and gestures. The term is also used in many academic fields other than art history, for example semiotics and media studies, and in general usage, for the content of images, the typical depiction in images of a subject, and related senses.
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconography]
This article is about iconography in art history. For religious painting in Eastern Christianity, see Icon.
Iconography is the branch of art history which studies the identification, description, and the interpretation of the content of images: the subjects depicted, the particular compositions and details used to do so, and other elements that are distinct from artistic style. The word iconography comes from the Greek εἰκών ("image") and γράφειν ("to write"). A secondary meaning (based on a non-standard translation of the Greek and Russian equivalent terms) is the production of religious images, called icons, in the Byzantine and Orthodox Christian tradition; that is covered at Icon. In art history, "an iconography" may also mean a particular depiction of a subject in terms of the content of the image, such as the number of figures used, their placing and gestures. The term is also used in many academic fields other than art history, for example semiotics and media studies, and in general usage, for the content of images, the typical depiction in images of a subject, and related senses.
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconography]
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Aleksandar Skobic
: Заборавили сте да споменете и другу дефиницију: 2) the traditional or conventional images or symbols associated with a subject and especially a religious or legendary subject http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/iconography
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drugu definiciju koja je manje-više ista?
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Мислим да је тиме све речено.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/iconography
Pogledajte sami šta dobijate ako tražite slike na Guglu na temu "Живопис цркве", prvi rezultat:
"Живопис цркве Манастира Света Богородица у Ђунису"
[http://www.orthphoto.net/photo.php?id=36381&id_jezyk=4]
sve same freske?
Ikonografija je nešto drugo, iako je u tesnoj vezi i sa freskama i sa ikonoma. Strogo posmatrano, to je ono što je prikazano na freskama i ikonama, i taj sadržaj mora da poštuje "crkvenu ikonografiju" tj. pravila šta i kako se mora slikati, u kom delu crkve itd - ta su pravila prilično kruta i određuje ih crkva, sigurno ne slikar.
U ovom konkretnom tekstu "he painted (all) the frescoes" je kristalno jasno čak i nekome ko ne zna sve finese crkvenog slikarstva u pravoslavnim crkvama.
Posebno je pitanje do koje mere možete u prevodu na engleski davati rečima značenje koje vama odgovara (sve reference na engleskom su prevodi) - vidi Reference comments
http://www.worldcat.org/title/fresco-iconography-of-st-nicho...
The fresco iconography of St. Nicholas' church, Hamilton = Živopis crkve Svetog oca Nikole, Hamilton
frescoes = freske na zidovima
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restoration_of_the_Sistine_Chap...]
ili primereniji primer:
"Church of St. George, Staro Nagoričane
Црква „Св. Великомаченик Георгиј“
Coordinates: 42°11′54″N 21°49′43″E
The Church of St. George (Macedonian: Црква „Св. Великомаченик Георгиј“, Crkva "Sv. Velikomačenik Georgij"; Serbian: Црква Светог Ђорђа or Crkva Svetog Đorđa) is a Macedonian Orthodox church in the village of Staro Nagoričane, near Kumanovo in the Republic of Macedonia. It is noteworthy both for its architecture and its frescoes. It is considered a key example of Christian heritage in this area.