Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

cadere nel nulla

English translation:

sink into oblivion

Added to glossary by Wendy Streitparth
Sep 12, 2018 01:24
5 yrs ago
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Italian term

cadere nel nulla

Italian to English Social Sciences Religion Vatican II
As the last sentence of the book I'm translating (on Vatican II), it should sound good to the ear as well as being formally correct. Here's the sentence

Ma ciò ha significato nient’altro che il risorgere del modernismo come fenice dalle ceneri della salutare “intransigenza romana”, lasciata completamente e colpevolmente ***cadere nel nulla*** dal “buon papa Giovanni”.

This is what I have at present, but I don't like it:

"But this has entailed nothing less than the resurgence of modernism like a phoenix from the ashes of that healthy "Roman intransigence" which "the good Pope John" allowed completely and culpably to fade away."

Thanks for any suggestions.

Peter
Change log

Sep 26, 2018 06:14: Wendy Streitparth Created KOG entry

Proposed translations

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sink into oblivion

(infamousl/(shamefully) permitted to sink (fade) into complete and utter oblivion
Peer comment(s):

agree Manuela Maruccia-Hirvelä
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Many thanks, Manuela
agree bluenoric
8 days
Many thanks, bluenoric
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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to drop into thin air

To fall into nothingness

Come to nothing...

A couple of possibilities.
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let/allowed to slip away completely

lasciata completamente e colpevolmente ***cadere nel nulla*** dal “buon papa Giovanni”.

That the good Pope John (or John the "good Pope") let/allowed to slip away completely

If you use to let you can omit the "guilty" part which makes the construction too heavy IMO.
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sink/fade into oblivion/obscurity

Because the sense is of something that will be completely forgotten as if it never existed.
Peer comment(s):

agree Wendy Streitparth : Sorry, Josephine. Your answer wasn't there when I posted.
12 mins
Thank you-probably finished writing the explanation just before you posted yours.
agree Fiona Grace Peterson
3 hrs
Thank you
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left to come to nothing

was left to come wrongly and completely to nothing.
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plunge into the abyss

I would say this as it evokes the idea of nothingness in continuum.

Example sentence:

"The country might PLUNGE INTO THE ABYSS of economic ruin."

"Smithson is not nihilistic, he does not PLUNGE INTO THE ABYSS, but like Deleuze he favours that art which has something of the abyss, of chaos, about it."

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