Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
da un quarto ciascuno
English translation:
a quarter each
Added to glossary by
Valeria Faber
Feb 5, 2007 09:18
17 yrs ago
Italian term
da un quarto ciascuno
Italian to English
Tech/Engineering
Engineering (general)
Part of a specification dealling with works on a gasholder. The whole sentence is:
Sostituzione delle lamiere di copertura del tetto esistenti con altre di Sp. 4 mm, con remozione di meta della copertura con modalita di scacchi ovvero, contemporaneamente, due spicchi diametralmente opposti da un quarto ciascuno. I think spicchi in this context are panels, but I cannot work out the removal sequence at all.
Sostituzione delle lamiere di copertura del tetto esistenti con altre di Sp. 4 mm, con remozione di meta della copertura con modalita di scacchi ovvero, contemporaneamente, due spicchi diametralmente opposti da un quarto ciascuno. I think spicchi in this context are panels, but I cannot work out the removal sequence at all.
Proposed translations
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| 2 +1 | a quarter each |
Valeria Faber
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| 3 | NE/SW or NW/SE quadrants |
Alfredo Tutino
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| 1 | explanation |
Chiara Righele
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Proposed translations
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a quarter each
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Alfredo Tutino
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NE/SW or NW/SE quadrants
I'm not proposing a translation, of course, only an answer your question.
first change 2 diagonally opposed panels (e.g. those in the NE / SW quadrants) then the other 2... Nothing more complicate than this. It's a square divided into 4 smaller squares (or maybe a rectangle divided into 4 smaller rectangles.
BTW, the source should read "...rimozione di metà..." - I suppose :-)
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-02-05 10:20:55 GMT)
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In fact I was hasty in imagining the geometry of this - I thought of a square flat rooftop because of "a scacchi", but "spicchi" might suggest other geometrical forms (e.g. triangles or quadrants for a flat roof, triangles for a piramidal one...)
It al doesn't have a serious bearing, IMHO, on the fact that panels are to be removed in pairs, each pair composed of 2 opposing (not adiacent) panels.
first change 2 diagonally opposed panels (e.g. those in the NE / SW quadrants) then the other 2... Nothing more complicate than this. It's a square divided into 4 smaller squares (or maybe a rectangle divided into 4 smaller rectangles.
BTW, the source should read "...rimozione di metà..." - I suppose :-)
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-02-05 10:20:55 GMT)
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In fact I was hasty in imagining the geometry of this - I thought of a square flat rooftop because of "a scacchi", but "spicchi" might suggest other geometrical forms (e.g. triangles or quadrants for a flat roof, triangles for a piramidal one...)
It al doesn't have a serious bearing, IMHO, on the fact that panels are to be removed in pairs, each pair composed of 2 opposing (not adiacent) panels.
Peer comment(s):
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Gian
: il testo dice "diametralmente" opposti; nella scacchiera le caselle bianche sono su una diagonale; se dividi in 4 con due diagonali una casella, puoi togliere quarti a scacchiera (diag.); ma il testo dice (forse erroneamente) diametralmente opposte
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mi spiace Gian, ma non capisco questa obiezione. In una scacchiera 2x2 con caselle bianche e nere alternate, le caselle nere sono opposte (rispetto al centro della scacchiera) lungo la diagonale del quadrato (=diametro del cerchio circoscritto), no?
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explanation
Removal sequence:
imagine you see the roof from the top: you have 4 triangles joint at the top. These triangles are your "spicchi". Each triangle corresponds to a quarter of the entire cover, so when removing you have to remove simultaneously the two opposite triangles (so that one is missing, the other remains there, another missing, another there... = modalità di scacchi, like blacks and whites on the chessboard...)
That's how I understand it
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-02-05 10:43:41 GMT)
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I agree with the note posted by Alfredo: the thing is, the 2 not adiacent panels are to be removed together, whatever their form may be (maybe ask the client for drawings or explanation...). In order to stick to the question, I think we all agree that the panels correspont to a quarter each...
imagine you see the roof from the top: you have 4 triangles joint at the top. These triangles are your "spicchi". Each triangle corresponds to a quarter of the entire cover, so when removing you have to remove simultaneously the two opposite triangles (so that one is missing, the other remains there, another missing, another there... = modalità di scacchi, like blacks and whites on the chessboard...)
That's how I understand it
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-02-05 10:43:41 GMT)
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I agree with the note posted by Alfredo: the thing is, the 2 not adiacent panels are to be removed together, whatever their form may be (maybe ask the client for drawings or explanation...). In order to stick to the question, I think we all agree that the panels correspont to a quarter each...
Peer comment(s):
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Gian
: se si parla di diametro i 4 pezzi sono quadrati (o rettangoli); se si parla di diagonale sono triangoli ; i pezzi da togliere sono diametralmente o diagonalmente opposti?
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normalmente i tetti sono formati da spicchi "triangolari". Tra l'altro faccio fatica a immaginare uno "spicchio" quadrato...
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