Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

Dottore Ingegnere

English translation:

chemical engineer

Added to glossary by Peter Cox
Mar 21, 2011 21:45
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Italian term

Dottore Ingegnere

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From the resume of a chemical engineer:
Dottore Ingegnere inscritto all’Ordine degli Ingegneri ed Architetti della provincia di Ancona

What do the two mean together? Perhaps "professional" or "experienced" ??
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Mar 23, 2011 13:53: Peter Cox Created KOG entry

Discussion

Simon Charass Mar 22, 2011:
In Italy, every person who graduates from a university, independently of the field of study, receives the title “Dottore”. If it to be translated, than “Professional” would be my option.
SYLVY75 Mar 21, 2011:
Maybe this could be of help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Engineering

Since the translation of academic titles is not my forte (I'm always worried about non-equivalences and the tendency of many Italians with a simple degree to boast non-existing or higher titles), I'm not submitting a translation, but just offering some food for thought. :)

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chemical engineer

I would simply use this. Possibly followed by type of degree as gallagy says
Peer comment(s):

agree Paul O'Brien : absolutely.
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Thanks! As they say KISS!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "yes, this is the simpliest way to address it. Just wasnt sure I was missing something with the two words together. Many thanks to you and everyone!"
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B.Eng

As noted in discussion and in ref. below, "dottore" does not mean a doctorate in this case. The nearest equivalent is B.Eng. (Bachelor of Engineering) from the Europe-wide equivalence of degree programme

Following the introduction of the Bologna process, universities divide higher-education studies in three cycles, corresponding to a 3-year bachelor's degree, a 2-year master's degree, and a doctoral degree.


In Italy until 2001 there was two degree: 3 years long "diploma in ingegneria" (BEng level, title abbrev. "dipl. ing.") and 5 years long "laurea in ingegneria" (MEng level, title abbrev. "ing."). Since 2001 reform, the bachelor level is called "laurea" (abbrev. "L") and master degree level is called "laurea specialistica" or "laurea magistrale" (abbrev. "LS"). Accordingly, today after 3 years of engineering studies can be obtained the degree called "laurea in ingegneria" (BEng level) and the title of "dottore in Ingegneria" (abbrev. "dott."). After five years of engineering studies can be obtained the degree called "laurea magistrale in ingegneria" (MEng level) and the title of "dottore magistrale in Ingegneria" (abbrev. "dott."). After a "state exam" you become "Ingegnere" (abbrv. Ing)[3]

... today after 3 years of engineering studies can be obtained the degree called "laurea in ingegneria" (BEng level) and the ...


The Bachelor of Engineering (commonly abbreviated as BE or BEng) is an undergraduate academic degree awarded to a student after three to five years of studying engineering at universities in Armenia, Australia, Bangladesh, Bulgaria, Canada, China, Denmark, Egypt, Finland, Germany, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Jordan, Korea, Lebanon, Macedonia, Malaysia, Nepal, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, Singapore, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Sweden, the United Kingdom, the United States, Vietnam, Zambia and Zimbabwe.[citation needed] The nature of the qualification varies around the world, hence it may or may not be a professional degree and it may or may not involve undertaking some engineering work. The course may or may not be accredited by a national professional society.

Some institutions award a Bachelor of Science (BSc Eng) Engineering, Bachelor of Engineering Science (BESc), Bachelor of Science in Engineering (BSE), or Bachelor of Applied Science (BASc) degree to undergraduate students of engineering study. For example, Canada is the only country that awards the BASc degree for graduating engineers.


Europe, prior to the Bologna ... - Europe, according to the ... - United States
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineer's_degree - Cached - Similar



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I have copied/pasted relevant info as for some obscure reason wikilink is not pasting properly

16 Feb 2011 ... Course outline: Our three-year BEng degree meets the standards of international Bachelors' engineering degrees from the USA and Commonwealth ...
www.ncl.ac.uk › Undergraduate Study - Cached


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or it could also be a B.Sc with a major in Engineering

Another difference between a BSC and a BEng undergraduate degree, ... BSC and BEng courses are undergraduate degree programs awarded to a student (by a ...
www.differencebetween.net/.../difference-between-bsc-and-be... - Cached - Similar


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re Pauley's comment

Whole idea here is to find some sort of equivalent degree in (presumeably since asker from there) US English. The original question was about "dottore" which means he's a graduate (see ref above), so I suggested B. Eng. or, later, B. Sc. i.e. nothing to do with "professional/experienced". Equivalence/equal validity is very tricky issue in degrees.
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disagree Paul O'Brien : to have a B.Eng he would need the "equipollenza"./recognition of his Italian degree as a B.Eng from an English speaking university. Has to fill in the form, make the request etc. It's on wikipedia, I think.
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which is?//Oh, I thought you were going to suggest another equivalence. I already posted the wiki ref. I'm only suggesting this as equivalent level to the Italian, not awarding him a B.Eng. or B.Sc degree!
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Engineer

Dottore Inginere = il titolo, Una persona laureata in Italia si chiama Dottore,..a prescindere del tipo di laurea che ha.
Quindi Dottore inginere si può tradure semplicemente Engineer (inginiere) messi insieme vuol dire laureato in ingineria ( il titolo proffessionale)

io per essempio ho una laurea in giurisprudenza, ma spesso vengo chiamata dottoressa ,. non avvocato per essempio.
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