Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Hungarian term or phrase:
grófi család
English translation:
Comital family (or noble/ aristocratic family)
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Szilvia Torma
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Az épületben operaelőadásokat tartott a színházat és zenét kedvelő grófi család. - az Estreházy családról van szó - Köszönöm!
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| 3 | Comital family (or noble/ aristocratic family) |
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| 5 -1 | count => The Esterházys |
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Comital family (or noble/ aristocratic family)
"Gróf" in itself can be translated as count/ countess when referring to the specific title of the individual. Noble family/ aristocratic family can be applied to refer more generally to the nobility without specifying the title.
The adjectival form of count, "comital" may be used to refer specifically to something "of or relating to a count or earl" (https://www.thefreedictionary.com/comital). i.e.: Comital family.
Another alternative is to refer to the nobility more generally by using the term aristocratic/ noble family. However, this does not specify which title is held by the family.
The adjectival form of count, "comital" may be used to refer specifically to something "of or relating to a count or earl" (https://www.thefreedictionary.com/comital). i.e.: Comital family.
Another alternative is to refer to the nobility more generally by using the term aristocratic/ noble family. However, this does not specify which title is held by the family.
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count => The Esterházys
HAYDN’S MAECENAS
The Esterházys used some of their riches to provide patronage for the arts, music above all. Miklós Esterházy, the founder of the powerful dynasty, was the first to invite musicians to his palace. His son, Pál Esterházy
(1635–1713), as well as being an excellent soldier and statesman, was also a patron of the arts, with a talent for composing music and writing poetry. His Harmonia Caelestis, a composition of 55 cantatas, is
occasionally performed to this very day. Prince Miklós “the Magnificent” Esterházy (1714–1790) was patron of no lesser musician than Joseph Haydn, and his court duly became famous far and wide for its concerts and opera performances.
https://herend.com/data/documents/1/2015/7/10/491/26-Herald....
mert nem a count's family-ről van szó, hanem arról, hogy több generáció is tartott...
However, an enthusiastic Viennese baron commissioned his freemason friend, Mozart, to tailor some of the works of the Baroque composer to the classicist tastes of the times. A private premier of the German
language version of Messiah was held in 1789 in the Viennese castle of Count János Esterházy,
https://www.opera.hu/data/kiadvany/fajlok/5323/2019_20_Progr...
The Esterházys used some of their riches to provide patronage for the arts, music above all. Miklós Esterházy, the founder of the powerful dynasty, was the first to invite musicians to his palace. His son, Pál Esterházy
(1635–1713), as well as being an excellent soldier and statesman, was also a patron of the arts, with a talent for composing music and writing poetry. His Harmonia Caelestis, a composition of 55 cantatas, is
occasionally performed to this very day. Prince Miklós “the Magnificent” Esterházy (1714–1790) was patron of no lesser musician than Joseph Haydn, and his court duly became famous far and wide for its concerts and opera performances.
https://herend.com/data/documents/1/2015/7/10/491/26-Herald....
mert nem a count's family-ről van szó, hanem arról, hogy több generáció is tartott...
However, an enthusiastic Viennese baron commissioned his freemason friend, Mozart, to tailor some of the works of the Baroque composer to the classicist tastes of the times. A private premier of the German
language version of Messiah was held in 1789 in the Viennese castle of Count János Esterházy,
https://www.opera.hu/data/kiadvany/fajlok/5323/2019_20_Progr...
Note from asker:
| Köszönöm, Erzsébet! Üdv.: T. Szilvi |
Peer comment(s):
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Katalin Horváth McClure
: Ez azt jelenti, hogy "gróf", ill. az Eszterházyak. A kérdés a "grófi család" kifejezés volt, ez nem annak a fordítása, ez a fordítás elkerülése. "Vagy fordítunk - vagy nem." Nem én mondtam... ;-)//A grófi család az magyarul is, angolul is több generáció.
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Ez volt a válaszom: count => The Esterházys. Mit kötözködsz? Ott van benne, ha az kell neki, hogy mi a gróf. De hát ha sz*r a magyar, mert fogalmazni nem tudnak, akkor csináljunk belőle még nagyobbat? Nem a családról, hanem több generációról van szó. :(((
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