Glossary entry (derived from question below)
français term or phrase:
guipage; fil guipé
anglais translation:
wrapping or covering a core filament; a wrapped or covered filament
Added to glossary by
Claire Chapman
Jul 16, 2004 21:07
19 yrs ago
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français term
guipage (externe); fil guipé
français vers anglais
Droit / Brevets
Textiles / vêtements / mode
Patent for the textile industry
These terms are used repeatedly in a patent for the textile industry. Actually, the way the text is, I am not sure whether these terms are textile terms or electrical terms.
I can't decide if 'fil guipé' is 'lapped wire', or maybe 'covered wire' (something to that effect). For 'guipage', EuroDicAutom says 'gimping process', and GDT gives several definitions, such as 'taping', 'lap, and 'reaming'...since 'guipage de cuivre' is 'copper-braided shield', and the connotation here is 'guipage externe', I am wondering if 'guipage' and 'guipage externe' refer to some sort of shield on the outside of the wire?
Any suggestions? Merci d'avance.
I can't decide if 'fil guipé' is 'lapped wire', or maybe 'covered wire' (something to that effect). For 'guipage', EuroDicAutom says 'gimping process', and GDT gives several definitions, such as 'taping', 'lap, and 'reaming'...since 'guipage de cuivre' is 'copper-braided shield', and the connotation here is 'guipage externe', I am wondering if 'guipage' and 'guipage externe' refer to some sort of shield on the outside of the wire?
Any suggestions? Merci d'avance.
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1 heure
français term (edited):
guipage (externe); fil guip�
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to wrap a cable/wire/thread; a wrapped cable/wire/thread
-more information with a different translation-
You are still left to decide whether it is textile or electrical...
guipage
opération consistant à recouvrir un fil d'âme par enroulement hélicoloïdal avec un ou plusieurs fils (simple ou double couverture).
guipé
fil composé d'un fil d'âme entouré d'un ou plusieurs fils dits de couverture
http://www.victor-perrin.fr/glossaire/glossaire_textile_g.ht...
SIMPLE FIL, DOUBLE GUIPAGE, COTON, FIL D'ÉCOSSE : le Lycra ® est l'âme centrale de nos fils, c'est lui qui apporte l'élasticité et la pression au tricot. pour sa protection, il peut être recouvert d'un simple fil (simple guipage) ou de deux fils enroulés en sens inverse (double guipage)…
http://www.kreussler.fr/pages/catalogues/veinostar/index.asp
GUIPAGE (SUBSTANTIF) COVER BAND
GUIPER UN CABLE,FIL... WRAP (TO) A CABLE,WIRE...
GUIPER UN CABLE,FIL... BRAID (TO) A CABLE,WIRE...
http://www.dassault-aviation.fr/outils/traducteur_resultat.c...
You are still left to decide whether it is textile or electrical...
guipage
opération consistant à recouvrir un fil d'âme par enroulement hélicoloïdal avec un ou plusieurs fils (simple ou double couverture).
guipé
fil composé d'un fil d'âme entouré d'un ou plusieurs fils dits de couverture
http://www.victor-perrin.fr/glossaire/glossaire_textile_g.ht...
SIMPLE FIL, DOUBLE GUIPAGE, COTON, FIL D'ÉCOSSE : le Lycra ® est l'âme centrale de nos fils, c'est lui qui apporte l'élasticité et la pression au tricot. pour sa protection, il peut être recouvert d'un simple fil (simple guipage) ou de deux fils enroulés en sens inverse (double guipage)…
http://www.kreussler.fr/pages/catalogues/veinostar/index.asp
GUIPAGE (SUBSTANTIF) COVER BAND
GUIPER UN CABLE,FIL... WRAP (TO) A CABLE,WIRE...
GUIPER UN CABLE,FIL... BRAID (TO) A CABLE,WIRE...
http://www.dassault-aviation.fr/outils/traducteur_resultat.c...
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Comment: "This was the correct answer in the context of the text I was translating - thanks for posting both responses, it helped a lot!"
32 minutes
français term (edited):
guipage (externe); fil guip�
bobbin lace making, bobbin lace thread
Guipure nf guipure (lace)
la guipure : dentelle sans fond représentant des fleurs… ou des arabesques
http://garby.jacques.free.fr/dentellieres2.htm
Les guipures de laine n'étaient faites nulle part aussi bien
qu'en Auvergne. Ce fil un peu rebelle aux croisements des fuseaux donnait une dentelle épaisse à laquelle il ne fallait demander aucune délicatesse de dessin, mais qui s'harmonisait parfaitement
avec les robes en drap auxquelles elle servait de garniture
Le filet-guipure, qui connut une grande popularité au cours de la seconde moitié du XIXème siècle, se réalise généralement sur un réseau à larges mailles avec des points très variés. Le relief des motifs, particulièrement travaillé, anime des fleurs, des feuilles et des formes géométriques diverses. Les parties denses au point de toile et les parties ajourées au point d’esprit s’associent à des décors inspirés de la dentelle à l’aiguille - dentelures, araignées, triangles - exécutés au point de reprise, en lançant des fils très près les uns des autres pour obtenir des motifs particulièrement denses.
http://www.anniecicatelli.com/filet.htm
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Note added at 37 mins (2004-07-16 21:45:37 GMT)
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This is, of course, assuming that we are talking about textiles and not electrical wire. In which case, in bobbin lace making, the threads are lapped over/crossed over each other repeatedly to form the pattern so it would fit with that idea. As far as electrical shielding goes...
la guipure : dentelle sans fond représentant des fleurs… ou des arabesques
http://garby.jacques.free.fr/dentellieres2.htm
Les guipures de laine n'étaient faites nulle part aussi bien
qu'en Auvergne. Ce fil un peu rebelle aux croisements des fuseaux donnait une dentelle épaisse à laquelle il ne fallait demander aucune délicatesse de dessin, mais qui s'harmonisait parfaitement
avec les robes en drap auxquelles elle servait de garniture
Le filet-guipure, qui connut une grande popularité au cours de la seconde moitié du XIXème siècle, se réalise généralement sur un réseau à larges mailles avec des points très variés. Le relief des motifs, particulièrement travaillé, anime des fleurs, des feuilles et des formes géométriques diverses. Les parties denses au point de toile et les parties ajourées au point d’esprit s’associent à des décors inspirés de la dentelle à l’aiguille - dentelures, araignées, triangles - exécutés au point de reprise, en lançant des fils très près les uns des autres pour obtenir des motifs particulièrement denses.
http://www.anniecicatelli.com/filet.htm
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Note added at 37 mins (2004-07-16 21:45:37 GMT)
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This is, of course, assuming that we are talking about textiles and not electrical wire. In which case, in bobbin lace making, the threads are lapped over/crossed over each other repeatedly to form the pattern so it would fit with that idea. As far as electrical shielding goes...
1 heure
français term (edited):
guipage (externe); fil guip�
spiral fabric/cloth wrapping/wrapped
guipage - Envelope isolante faite d'un ruban tissé enroulé en hélice, en deux couches successives à pas inversé, sur certains conducteurs
[Dicobat]
Earlier cloth covered wire will disintegrate to bare copper and shreds of cloth wrapping
[http://www.imperialclub.com/Repair/Engine/cleaning.htm]
Spiral Wrap The helical wrap of a tape or thread over a core
Tape Wrap A spirally applied tape over an insulated or uninsulated wire.
[http://www.libertycable.com/support/glossary.html]
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Note added at 1 hr 4 mins (2004-07-16 22:12:35 GMT)
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NB - The AFNOR nuclear dictionary gives \"guipage (câble): covering (cable protection)\" and \"guipé (câble): covered (i.e. not bare; does not imply \"insulated\").
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Note added at 1 hr 12 mins (2004-07-16 22:20:02 GMT)
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I TAKE THAT BACK. I didn\'t read your question properly. Though I don\'t have the context, I tend to think \"fil\" here is not \"wire\" but \"thread\" or \"yarn\". Some threads/yarns have other threads or yarns wrapped around them, notably in the case of knitting yarns where another colour or a metallic thread is wrapped around the inner yarn for decorative effect.
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Note added at 1 hr 17 mins (2004-07-16 22:25:38 GMT)
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Just discovered that THAT is what \"gimp\" is!
Also:
The original post was about adding a filament to another thread for machine stitching. What I think was meant about the original question was the use of Balger Blending Filament. This is a thin, polyester metallic thread wrapped around a core polyester thread. It is very lightweight and comes in a multitude of metallic shades. It is manufactured by the Kreinik corp. I
have used the Balger blending filament for hand embroidery and especially smocking. It gives a nice sheen,
[http://www.masterstech-home.com/The_Sewing_Room/Articles/Met...]
DMC \'FIL OR MI-FIN\' (art 280) 5grm/60 metre spool
Nº 10 Gold, wrapped, embroidery thread £4.20
DMC \'FIL ARGENT MI-FIN\' (art 281) 5grm/60 metre spool
Nº 10 Silver, wrapped, embroidery thread £2.70
[http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/timparker/threads3.html]
Lion Brand Lame\' Metallic Yarn is a 3-ply gimp metallic wrapped thread. When making items with New Metallics, a 2-ply fiber, I also made a few items with the Lame\' Metallic which is thicker. Size 6/0 to 11/0 beads will easily fit over the 3-ply.
[http://www.beadwrangler.com/insidethreads.htm]
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Note added at 12 hrs 26 mins (2004-07-17 09:34:35 GMT)
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WITH YOUR additional comment I understand better why you hesitate between \"wire\" and \"thread\"! Not easy.
Maybe if we knew more about the object of the patent? E.g. does it concern a motor or some other electrical device?
[Dicobat]
Earlier cloth covered wire will disintegrate to bare copper and shreds of cloth wrapping
[http://www.imperialclub.com/Repair/Engine/cleaning.htm]
Spiral Wrap The helical wrap of a tape or thread over a core
Tape Wrap A spirally applied tape over an insulated or uninsulated wire.
[http://www.libertycable.com/support/glossary.html]
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Note added at 1 hr 4 mins (2004-07-16 22:12:35 GMT)
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NB - The AFNOR nuclear dictionary gives \"guipage (câble): covering (cable protection)\" and \"guipé (câble): covered (i.e. not bare; does not imply \"insulated\").
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Note added at 1 hr 12 mins (2004-07-16 22:20:02 GMT)
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I TAKE THAT BACK. I didn\'t read your question properly. Though I don\'t have the context, I tend to think \"fil\" here is not \"wire\" but \"thread\" or \"yarn\". Some threads/yarns have other threads or yarns wrapped around them, notably in the case of knitting yarns where another colour or a metallic thread is wrapped around the inner yarn for decorative effect.
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Note added at 1 hr 17 mins (2004-07-16 22:25:38 GMT)
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Just discovered that THAT is what \"gimp\" is!
Also:
The original post was about adding a filament to another thread for machine stitching. What I think was meant about the original question was the use of Balger Blending Filament. This is a thin, polyester metallic thread wrapped around a core polyester thread. It is very lightweight and comes in a multitude of metallic shades. It is manufactured by the Kreinik corp. I
have used the Balger blending filament for hand embroidery and especially smocking. It gives a nice sheen,
[http://www.masterstech-home.com/The_Sewing_Room/Articles/Met...]
DMC \'FIL OR MI-FIN\' (art 280) 5grm/60 metre spool
Nº 10 Gold, wrapped, embroidery thread £4.20
DMC \'FIL ARGENT MI-FIN\' (art 281) 5grm/60 metre spool
Nº 10 Silver, wrapped, embroidery thread £2.70
[http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/timparker/threads3.html]
Lion Brand Lame\' Metallic Yarn is a 3-ply gimp metallic wrapped thread. When making items with New Metallics, a 2-ply fiber, I also made a few items with the Lame\' Metallic which is thicker. Size 6/0 to 11/0 beads will easily fit over the 3-ply.
[http://www.beadwrangler.com/insidethreads.htm]
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Note added at 12 hrs 26 mins (2004-07-17 09:34:35 GMT)
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WITH YOUR additional comment I understand better why you hesitate between \"wire\" and \"thread\"! Not easy.
Maybe if we knew more about the object of the patent? E.g. does it concern a motor or some other electrical device?
19 heures
français term (edited):
guipage (externe); fil guip�
external sheathing / sheathed yarn or thread
It sounds like one thread covered with a sheath of another thread / other threads, to make it thicker, or to raise it to give an embossed effect.
Discussion
Everyone deserves points on this one - thanks again.
Yeah, I'm still stuck on how to word 'fil the guipage' - any further suggestions?
les r�sistances �lectriques sont constitu�es par des fils guip�s
le guipage externe est un guipage simple r�alis� au moyen d�un fil conducteur de l��lectricit�
OK, those two examples make me think 'wire', and lean towards these being electrical terms, as opposed to textile terms.