Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
à la permanence sous les changements apparents
English translation:
A return to) a state of permanence couched under appearances of change
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Aug 3, 2010 16:31
13 yrs ago
French term
à la permanence sous les changements apparents
French to English
Art/Literary
Philosophy
Cultural essay
The article is about North Korean cinema. In this paragraph, the text talks about how, among other things, how Koreans perceive socialism:
"La particularité des mots d’ordre du régime coréen vient à la fois de la stabilité du régime (qui a donc évité les mots d’ordre remettant en cause les réformes passées comme ce fut le cas en Chine) et d’une certaine idée du socialisme. En effet, les mots d’ordre comme « résistance », « reconstruction » ou « réunification » sont des appels à un retour vers une situation idéale antérieure, une situation « pure » et première de la société coréenne qui fait du socialisme un simple instrument (d’origine occidentale) vers le retour aux sources, à la permanence sous les changements apparents."
This is what I translated so far, if it helps:
"What makes the Korean regime’s slogans different is, on one hand, related to regime stability (North Korean authorities were spared from having to question past reforms, which was not the case in China) and, on the other, related to a certain idea of socialism. Indeed, watchwords like “resistance”, “reconstruction” and “reunification” are a call to return to a previous ideal state of affairs, a “pure” situation which constitutes a top priority in Korean society; it considers socialism as a simple instrument (of Western origins) for returning to the roots..."
Thing is, I'm not getting the last part of the sentence at all!
What the heck is "à la permanence sous les changements apparents"?!
Thanks in advance.
"La particularité des mots d’ordre du régime coréen vient à la fois de la stabilité du régime (qui a donc évité les mots d’ordre remettant en cause les réformes passées comme ce fut le cas en Chine) et d’une certaine idée du socialisme. En effet, les mots d’ordre comme « résistance », « reconstruction » ou « réunification » sont des appels à un retour vers une situation idéale antérieure, une situation « pure » et première de la société coréenne qui fait du socialisme un simple instrument (d’origine occidentale) vers le retour aux sources, à la permanence sous les changements apparents."
This is what I translated so far, if it helps:
"What makes the Korean regime’s slogans different is, on one hand, related to regime stability (North Korean authorities were spared from having to question past reforms, which was not the case in China) and, on the other, related to a certain idea of socialism. Indeed, watchwords like “resistance”, “reconstruction” and “reunification” are a call to return to a previous ideal state of affairs, a “pure” situation which constitutes a top priority in Korean society; it considers socialism as a simple instrument (of Western origins) for returning to the roots..."
Thing is, I'm not getting the last part of the sentence at all!
What the heck is "à la permanence sous les changements apparents"?!
Thanks in advance.
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +1 | A return to) a state of permanence couched under appearances of change | Claire Nolan |
4 +1 | the permanence underlying apparent change | philgoddard |
4 | apparent change but status quo | kashew |
Change log
Aug 4, 2010 08:25: Julie Barber changed "Term asked" from "\"à la permanence sous les changements apparents\"" to "à la permanence sous les changements apparents"
Proposed translations
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French term (edited):
"à la permanence sous les changements apparents"
Selected
A return to) a state of permanence couched under appearances of change
The government is using 'socialism' so that to the outer world they seem to be changing, to be progressing, but in reality they are returning to their old pure Korean identity.
(A return to) a state of permanence couched under appearances of change
(A return to) a state of permanence couched under appearances of change
Note from asker:
Lucie's awesome |
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Lucie Le Naour (X)
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Comment: "best option yet"
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French term (edited):
"à la permanence sous les changements apparents"
the permanence underlying apparent change
In other words, things appear to be changing on the surface but in reality they're still the same.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Lucie Le Naour (X)
50 mins
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1 hr
French term (edited):
"à la permanence sous les changements apparents"
apparent change but status quo
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Discussion
I'll have to go with "permanence", majority rules I guess.
"What makes the Korean regime’s slogans different is, on one hand, related to regime stability (North Korean authorities were spared from having to question past reforms, unlike in China) and, on the other, related to a certain idea of socialism. Indeed, watchwords like “resistance”, “reconstruction” and “reunification” are a call to return to a previous ideal state of affairs, a “pure” situation which constitutes a top priority in Korean society; it considers socialism as a simple instrument (of Western make) for returning to the roots, to what always lies underneath the country’s apparent changes."