Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
battue
English translation:
"battue" [hunting]
Added to glossary by
Rachel Fell
Jan 12, 2006 19:48
18 yrs ago
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French term
United Kingdom
battue
French to English
Other
Livestock / Animal Husbandry
hunting
In a text about leisure pursuits in a particular area. The title is "Battue au sanglier en forêt domaniale", and later on it says "Si l'Office National des Forêts
ne peut pas vous garantir un tableau, vous êtes cependant certain de participer à une véritable battue avec les aboiements des chiens, les appels des traqueurs qui vous signaleront le gibier, les trompes de battue qui vous accueilleront et qui, le soir, nous vous le souhaitons, vous sonneront les honneurs à la tête de votre animal." Any thoughts, please, about what sort of hunt this is? I realise that it is with beaters, but I don't know anything about hunting, so don't know the vocab. Thanks in advance for any help.
ne peut pas vous garantir un tableau, vous êtes cependant certain de participer à une véritable battue avec les aboiements des chiens, les appels des traqueurs qui vous signaleront le gibier, les trompes de battue qui vous accueilleront et qui, le soir, nous vous le souhaitons, vous sonneront les honneurs à la tête de votre animal." Any thoughts, please, about what sort of hunt this is? I realise that it is with beaters, but I don't know anything about hunting, so don't know the vocab. Thanks in advance for any help.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | "battue" |
Rachel Fell
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| 3 +1 | battue |
Susana Galilea
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| 1 +1 | drive |
NancyLynn
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| 3 -1 | trail /trailing |
Anna Quail
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Proposed translations
+3
8 mins
Rachel Fell
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Works in field
United Kingdom
Thorough, knowledgeable and resourceful
Native in: English (Variant: UK) 
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, Italian to English, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
Selected
"battue"
he traditional boar hunt, "La Battue", is a friendly and messy reunion of ... This was done at bay, usually the boar being held "aux écoutes" (the ears), ...
www.gourmetfly.com/Huntco.htm
WILD BOAR. Selection hunt : Hunting season - from June 1st till January 31st. ... Shooting wild boars en battue. Hunting season : from October 1st till ...
dimeca.netbg.com/boar.htm
Big game hunting of red deer, fallow deer, mouflons, wild goats, boars, deer, ... Battue hunting of wild pigs or pheasants takes place with an adequate ...
www.balkantourist.bg/balkanturist/other/fish/default.asp
the pursuit and killing or capture of wild animals regarded as a sport. Kinds of ... kinds of hunt, hunting:. * battue a hunt in which beaters force the game to flee in the direction of the hunter
www.answers.com/topic/hunt-hunting
... and involves a battue with dogs entering in a area circled by the hunters ... Normally you must shoot at running game (mainly deer and wild boar) with ...
www.chuckhawks.com/spanish_game.htm
battue (driven hunt). This hunting technique is done all over the département ... From about ten raised hides you will watch roe deer and wild boar in their ...
www.acteon.asso.fr/en/sites/vosges/vosges_chasse.php
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P.S. ...! A wild boar expert warns of "mayhem" as hunters round up 60 escaped animals ... and the hunting dogs in this country are not trained to hold a pig at bay. ...
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4579608.stm
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Note added at 46 mins (2006-01-12 20:34:49 GMT)
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P.S. ...! A wild boar expert warns of "mayhem" as hunters round up 60 escaped animals ... and the hunting dogs in this country are not trained to hold a pig at bay. ...
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4579608.stm
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Note added at 1474 days (2010-01-26 19:39:58 GMT) Post-grading
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update, in view of a recent It>En Q. - http://www.proz.com/kudoz/italian_to_english/sports_fitness_...
It was my pleasure to welcome a group from Norfolk in Slovakia. Not only were the folks from Norfolk excellent shots and broke the shooting ground record in wild boar driven shooting, but they also had great fun exploring the local traditions. Result - 19 Boars, challenging birds, and unforgettable memories to take back to England. Here is what they had to say after their successful weekend:
Pheasant_shooting
Dear Eva,
Thank you for organising such a fantastic weekend, the whole trip was brilliant and we all loved it. I will never forget the excitement of the boar shooting and the fun and tradition of the ceremonies involved with shooting in Slovakia. Thank you for an incredible trip.
Regards,
Tom
Thank you for a fantastic extended weekend could not have enjoyed it more. All the best and thank you again.
Bratislava_trip
Charlie
Dear Eva,
I cannot thank you enough for what proved to be a spectacular weekend. To generate such levels of excitement in a group of experienced guns was simply remarkable. Slovakian traditions on the shooting field added another dimension to our pheasant shooting, creating a fantastic environment albeit a wet one! However our first day pleasure was surpassed by the extraordinary second. Driven wild boar is something you simply must do, I have stood with this line of guns for several years and never have I seen exhilaration like it! The organization is perfect, from collection, accommodation, food and the occasional late night taxi trip to the sad moment we were returned to Vienna.
Thank you again for an amazing weekend and we will certainly be back!!
http://www.shootingenterprise.com/main/publication/content/4...
à chacun son goût...
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Note added at 1474 days (2010-01-26 19:43:43 GMT) Post-grading
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I mean, in case the case of wild boar perhaps it could be either - "battue" (esp. acc. to context) or driven wild boar shooting; either way, if beaters were sent in, I suppose the poor old boar might well go to bay rather than zoom out of the wood.
www.gourmetfly.com/Huntco.htm
WILD BOAR. Selection hunt : Hunting season - from June 1st till January 31st. ... Shooting wild boars en battue. Hunting season : from October 1st till ...
dimeca.netbg.com/boar.htm
Big game hunting of red deer, fallow deer, mouflons, wild goats, boars, deer, ... Battue hunting of wild pigs or pheasants takes place with an adequate ...
www.balkantourist.bg/balkanturist/other/fish/default.asp
the pursuit and killing or capture of wild animals regarded as a sport. Kinds of ... kinds of hunt, hunting:. * battue a hunt in which beaters force the game to flee in the direction of the hunter
www.answers.com/topic/hunt-hunting
... and involves a battue with dogs entering in a area circled by the hunters ... Normally you must shoot at running game (mainly deer and wild boar) with ...
www.chuckhawks.com/spanish_game.htm
battue (driven hunt). This hunting technique is done all over the département ... From about ten raised hides you will watch roe deer and wild boar in their ...
www.acteon.asso.fr/en/sites/vosges/vosges_chasse.php
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Note added at 9 mins (2006-01-12 19:58:13 GMT)
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P.S. ...! A wild boar expert warns of "mayhem" as hunters round up 60 escaped animals ... and the hunting dogs in this country are not trained to hold a pig at bay. ...
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4579608.stm
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Note added at 46 mins (2006-01-12 20:34:49 GMT)
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P.S. ...! A wild boar expert warns of "mayhem" as hunters round up 60 escaped animals ... and the hunting dogs in this country are not trained to hold a pig at bay. ...
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4579608.stm
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Note added at 1474 days (2010-01-26 19:39:58 GMT) Post-grading
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update, in view of a recent It>En Q. - http://www.proz.com/kudoz/italian_to_english/sports_fitness_...
It was my pleasure to welcome a group from Norfolk in Slovakia. Not only were the folks from Norfolk excellent shots and broke the shooting ground record in wild boar driven shooting, but they also had great fun exploring the local traditions. Result - 19 Boars, challenging birds, and unforgettable memories to take back to England. Here is what they had to say after their successful weekend:
Pheasant_shooting
Dear Eva,
Thank you for organising such a fantastic weekend, the whole trip was brilliant and we all loved it. I will never forget the excitement of the boar shooting and the fun and tradition of the ceremonies involved with shooting in Slovakia. Thank you for an incredible trip.
Regards,
Tom
Thank you for a fantastic extended weekend could not have enjoyed it more. All the best and thank you again.
Bratislava_trip
Charlie
Dear Eva,
I cannot thank you enough for what proved to be a spectacular weekend. To generate such levels of excitement in a group of experienced guns was simply remarkable. Slovakian traditions on the shooting field added another dimension to our pheasant shooting, creating a fantastic environment albeit a wet one! However our first day pleasure was surpassed by the extraordinary second. Driven wild boar is something you simply must do, I have stood with this line of guns for several years and never have I seen exhilaration like it! The organization is perfect, from collection, accommodation, food and the occasional late night taxi trip to the sad moment we were returned to Vienna.
Thank you again for an amazing weekend and we will certainly be back!!
http://www.shootingenterprise.com/main/publication/content/4...
à chacun son goût...
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Note added at 1474 days (2010-01-26 19:43:43 GMT) Post-grading
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I mean, in case the case of wild boar perhaps it could be either - "battue" (esp. acc. to context) or driven wild boar shooting; either way, if beaters were sent in, I suppose the poor old boar might well go to bay rather than zoom out of the wood.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks very much for your help and all your trouble."
+1
10 mins
Susana Galilea
United States
United States
United States
Customized Translation Services ENG>SPA
Native in: Spanish (Variants: Latin American, Standard-Spain, US)
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish
battue
seems the French word is used in English as well
battue
SYLLABICATION: bat·tue
PRONUNCIATION: b-t, -ty
NOUN: 1. The beating of woods and bushes to flush game. 2. A hunt in which this is done.
ETYMOLOGY: French, feminine of battu, past participle of battre, to beat, from Old French batre. See batter1.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by the Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
battue
SYLLABICATION: bat·tue
PRONUNCIATION: b-t, -ty
NOUN: 1. The beating of woods and bushes to flush game. 2. A hunt in which this is done.
ETYMOLOGY: French, feminine of battu, past participle of battre, to beat, from Old French batre. See batter1.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by the Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
Note from asker:
| Thanks very much for your help! |
+1
13 mins
drive
I'm no hunter either, but this is what Termium says:
Domaine(s)
– Hunting (Sports)
Domaine(s)
– Chasse (Sports)
drives with dogs Source CORRECT
battue avec chiens Source CORRECT, FÉM
Then.de/l.moeller/Wild/Wild_Boar.html - 18k - En cache - Pages similaires
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When the dogs did jump a boar, they made a tremendous commotion. ... While the
drives were on, a boar could have materialized from any area at any moment. ...
www.sportsmansguide.com/article/ article_read.asp?aid=150168&sid=71 - 34k - En cache - Pages similaires
and
Discount Hunting Gear, Government Surplus, Ammo, Shooting Supplies ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
When the dogs did jump a boar, they made a tremendous commotion. ... While the
drives were on, a boar could have materialized from any area at any moment. ...
www.sportsmansguide.com/article/ article_read.asp?aid=150168&sid=71 - 34k - En cache - Pages similaires
Drive is the desire to get out and hunt, and keep hunting., and bottom is the stamina to stay with a hog until it stops, whether it be in 1 mile or 10 miles....The only time they should bark, is when they are looking at a hog. They are gritty enough to make even a big a boar stop and fight, thus keeping him from running too far. We also expect them to be smart enough so that when a big boar stops to fight - the curs back up and bay. If he runs again they should fight him again, until he stops. They only need to hold the boar at bay until the Dogos get to them. When the Dogos catch the boar, the cur dogs are expected to catch and hold on as well. If it is a a sow or small boar we expect them to catch it by themselves. This degree of grittiness works well, however if we put 4 or 5 of these curs together, they will catch most any boar - or get killed trying to catch him. For this reason we usually run only 2 or 3 curs of this type together.
Does this fit your context?
Domaine(s)
– Hunting (Sports)
Domaine(s)
– Chasse (Sports)
drives with dogs Source CORRECT
battue avec chiens Source CORRECT, FÉM
Then.de/l.moeller/Wild/Wild_Boar.html - 18k - En cache - Pages similaires
Discount Hunting Gear, Government Surplus, Ammo, Shooting Supplies ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
When the dogs did jump a boar, they made a tremendous commotion. ... While the
drives were on, a boar could have materialized from any area at any moment. ...
www.sportsmansguide.com/article/ article_read.asp?aid=150168&sid=71 - 34k - En cache - Pages similaires
and
Discount Hunting Gear, Government Surplus, Ammo, Shooting Supplies ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
When the dogs did jump a boar, they made a tremendous commotion. ... While the
drives were on, a boar could have materialized from any area at any moment. ...
www.sportsmansguide.com/article/ article_read.asp?aid=150168&sid=71 - 34k - En cache - Pages similaires
Drive is the desire to get out and hunt, and keep hunting., and bottom is the stamina to stay with a hog until it stops, whether it be in 1 mile or 10 miles....The only time they should bark, is when they are looking at a hog. They are gritty enough to make even a big a boar stop and fight, thus keeping him from running too far. We also expect them to be smart enough so that when a big boar stops to fight - the curs back up and bay. If he runs again they should fight him again, until he stops. They only need to hold the boar at bay until the Dogos get to them. When the Dogos catch the boar, the cur dogs are expected to catch and hold on as well. If it is a a sow or small boar we expect them to catch it by themselves. This degree of grittiness works well, however if we put 4 or 5 of these curs together, they will catch most any boar - or get killed trying to catch him. For this reason we usually run only 2 or 3 curs of this type together.
Does this fit your context?
Note from asker:
| Thanks very much for all your effort to help! |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Tony M
: I agree that it would be nice to find a more 'English' term, but OED doesn't confirm it in this exact usage, and as this is hunting taking place in France, I think sticking with the FR/EN term is probably best
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probably - but see Rachel's final ref, calling it a driven hunt
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Anna Quail
: See the references in my answer... You're right and I'm wrong :-)
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that's what research accomplishes - clarity. Thanks FtoE
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23 mins
Anna Quail
France
France
Native in English
France
Once a translator...
Native in: English (Variants: British, Irish, UK)
Works in: French to English, English
Related KudoZ points
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12
trail /trailing
I think this is more "English" than "battue".
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Note added at 32 mins (2006-01-12 20:20:27 GMT)
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Or "scouting" but I think that's before the actual hunt.
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Note added at 1 hr 31 mins (2006-01-12 21:19:31 GMT)
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Reference for scouting:
http://www.huntingnet.com/staticpages/staticpage_detail.aspx...
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Note added at 1 hr 36 mins (2006-01-12 21:24:28 GMT)
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For drive, just because there's room here and not in the peer space:
"A drive is a good technique for hunting mature bucks, especially once deer have been pressured and have retreated into dense cover. With most methods a hunter tries hard to hide from deer, but a drive functions just the opposite way. A group of drivers enter a thick area thought to harbor deer. They break all the rules of stealthy hunting. They go in with the wind at their backs, which sends their scent toward the deer. The drivers walk fast, talk and sometimes yell to make sure the whitetails know they are coming."
http://www.huntingnet.com/staticpages/staticpage_detail.aspx...
"There are 5 main deer-hunting techniques: treestand hunting, still-hunting, drives and ground blind hunting, and spot and stalk hunting. All five can prove effective, depending on the situation and a hunter's weapon of choice."
http://www.huntingnet.com/staticpages/staticpage_detail.aspx...
So, you also have "stalking"...
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Note added at 32 mins (2006-01-12 20:20:27 GMT)
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Or "scouting" but I think that's before the actual hunt.
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Note added at 1 hr 31 mins (2006-01-12 21:19:31 GMT)
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Reference for scouting:
http://www.huntingnet.com/staticpages/staticpage_detail.aspx...
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Note added at 1 hr 36 mins (2006-01-12 21:24:28 GMT)
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For drive, just because there's room here and not in the peer space:
"A drive is a good technique for hunting mature bucks, especially once deer have been pressured and have retreated into dense cover. With most methods a hunter tries hard to hide from deer, but a drive functions just the opposite way. A group of drivers enter a thick area thought to harbor deer. They break all the rules of stealthy hunting. They go in with the wind at their backs, which sends their scent toward the deer. The drivers walk fast, talk and sometimes yell to make sure the whitetails know they are coming."
http://www.huntingnet.com/staticpages/staticpage_detail.aspx...
"There are 5 main deer-hunting techniques: treestand hunting, still-hunting, drives and ground blind hunting, and spot and stalk hunting. All five can prove effective, depending on the situation and a hunter's weapon of choice."
http://www.huntingnet.com/staticpages/staticpage_detail.aspx...
So, you also have "stalking"...
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Note from asker:
| Thanks for your help. |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Tony M
: Unless you have positive confirmation of this, I think you'll find this is more about following game, rather than driving it, as done by 'beaters'
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Hello Dusty. You're probably right. Maybe scouting then, although I've "hunted" around and I think it may be "drive" :-)
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