Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
réfractaire
English translation:
those who refused conscription
Added to glossary by
Christopher Crockett
Jan 8, 2005 12:49
19 yrs ago
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French term
réfractaire
French to English
Other
History
les activités des réfractaires et résistants du régime
describing 2nd world war in Luxembourg
describing 2nd world war in Luxembourg
Proposed translations
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4 +2 | those who refused conscription | Christopher Crockett |
4 +1 | see explanation | Terry Moran |
3 | dissenters | suezen |
Proposed translations
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those who refused conscription
To judge by the website you gave, apparently this is a rather specialized term which can't really be translated.
"Draft dodger" or "draft evader" won't do --even though these guys did, indeed, "dodge" or "evade" the draft-- because what was no doubt involved was somehing much more *active* and, ultimately, dangerous. There was nothing "passive" about Resisting the Nazi occupation of your country, it seems to me.
And, they did more than "dissent" or even "oppose" --these are just too mild terms.
What we are talking about here is a specific aspect (subset) of The Resistance, at least in Luxembourg, and, probably, in other occupied countries.
(Capitalising "the Resistance" gives it something of the status which it deserved, btw, and I've seen that done often when speaking of the French Resistance.)
It seems that "réfractaires" refers to members of the Resistance who chose to fight the Germans in relatively non-violent ways --not by blowing up trains or other sabotage, but by resisting (by what means, one wonders?) the Conscription imposed on the native population.
"...the activities of those who refused conscription and were active in the Resistance..." maybe.
"Draft dodger" or "draft evader" won't do --even though these guys did, indeed, "dodge" or "evade" the draft-- because what was no doubt involved was somehing much more *active* and, ultimately, dangerous. There was nothing "passive" about Resisting the Nazi occupation of your country, it seems to me.
And, they did more than "dissent" or even "oppose" --these are just too mild terms.
What we are talking about here is a specific aspect (subset) of The Resistance, at least in Luxembourg, and, probably, in other occupied countries.
(Capitalising "the Resistance" gives it something of the status which it deserved, btw, and I've seen that done often when speaking of the French Resistance.)
It seems that "réfractaires" refers to members of the Resistance who chose to fight the Germans in relatively non-violent ways --not by blowing up trains or other sabotage, but by resisting (by what means, one wonders?) the Conscription imposed on the native population.
"...the activities of those who refused conscription and were active in the Resistance..." maybe.
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Dr Sue Levy (X)
: I think this is really the best solution, given the very specific nature of the term (my links up there)
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Many thanks, Sue. And for your links, which made me think along these lines.
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xuebai
: i completely agree
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Thanks, xuebai. Though Complete Agreement is kinda scarey.
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see explanation
This term has a special meaning: French civilians who refused to be drafted to work in Germany during WW2. I dare say it also applies to Luxembourg, and it goes well with résistants. Failing that, "recalcitrant elements" or "malcontents" might do.
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Christopher Crockett
: If what you say is true, then it's not a question of "draft dodgers"(which is not only a somewhat anachronistic term--as Sue suggests--and also refers to a*military*draft) but of some sort of more serious resistance,more than just "dissenters", as well.
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DocteurPC
: I would go for recalcitrant elements though I like dissenter too, but this seems more than just dissent (often passive)
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Maria Luisa Duarte
: civilians who refused to be drafted ! MLD
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dissenters
I think
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or opponents, dissidents
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followed by an explanation
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my Robert and Collins talks of draft evader
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or opponents, dissidents
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Note added at 6 mins (2005-01-08 12:55:54 GMT)
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followed by an explanation
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Note added at 3 hrs 17 mins (2005-01-08 16:06:27 GMT)
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my Robert and Collins talks of draft evader
Discussion
Luxembourg was occupied by Germany, the govt went into exile. Luxembourgers enrolled by force into the German military and work programmes. There was also organised resistance mov't.