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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

becquée

English translation:

punctured

Added to glossary by Miranda Joubioux (X)
This question was closed without grading. Reason: Answer found elsewhere
Apr 22, 2010 10:07
14 yrs ago
French term

becquée

French to English Other Food & Drink Risk prevention - hygiene
This is among a list of things to check when catering supplies arrive on site.

Etat des boîtes: rouillées, bombées, becquées…

I assume they are referring to canned food here. But I've no idea what becquée means.
Proposed translations (English)
5 +4 dented or pierced
4 +2 buckled
5 indented
3 pierced
References
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Change log

Apr 22, 2010 16:39: Miranda Joubioux (X) Created KOG entry

Discussion

Miranda Joubioux (X) (asker) Apr 22, 2010:
punctured It looks likely that "punctured" is the most suitable word, which is closer to the real meaning of 'becqueter'. I am therefore closing the question. Many thanks for all your help. Alex. That PDF you found is really useful.
http://www.utahfoodbank.org/pdf/UFB_Complete_Safe_Food_Donat...
kashew Apr 22, 2010:
Becqueter: piquer ou frapper avec le bec.
kashew Apr 22, 2010:
Buckled tins. Buckling would have = flambage in engineering terms e.g. " ... une palette chargée de boîtes de conserves empilées, afin d'en faciliter le transport. .... vérin résiste bien au flambage avec le type de liaison retenue.
Rather exaggerated in layman's lingo.

Proposed translations

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11 mins

buckled

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Reference:

http://www.tpub.com/content/armymedical/md0708/md07080049.htm

http://www.foodproductiondaily.com/Packaging/Can-buckle-tester-enhanced-on-food-industry-demand

Peer comment(s):
agree Marc Jordan (X)
12 mins
agree Philippa Smith : Good answer + references - I'd got as far as seeing the buckled effect in my mind's eye without being anywhere near finding the right word!
14 mins
neutral kashew : For "flambage" yes.
53 mins
agree Bourth (X) : See references for more.
2 hrs
disagree Alan Douglas (X) : In spite of the references, if the intention was to say "buckled", why not deformé(es) or gauchi(es) in the original. Birds pecking don't suggest buckling.
2 hrs
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19 mins

pierced

As becquée refers to the beak of a bird, I am picturing a box which has been torn, as if by a bird's beak. Some evidence of same on a google image search.
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+4
56 mins

dented or pierced

* a combination of two sorts of damage. (and/or)

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Note added at 57 minutes (2010-04-22 11:05:44 GMT)
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"A while ago I heard that dented canned food is not the best to consume ... I assume it's because the vacuum that keeps the food fresh might have been broken ..."
www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Food.../Question428438.html -
Peer comment(s):
agree Evans (X) : I think dented is a more likely word to be used in English, as dented tins may or may not have been pierced, and this would make sense to most readers
33 mins
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agree ormiston : I'd go for dented too
49 mins
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agree Carol Gullidge : commonly used in EN regarding tinned food
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agree Travelin Ann : dented for US canned goods
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2 hrs

indented

Either-or replies cannot find their way into a dictionary or glossary so why post them as an answer?

With various spellings - bequer, bécoter, bequeter, becqueter - all being translatable as "to peck at" the suggestion is more towards "indented" in the sense of a small indent caused by something sharp or pointed rather than an actual perforation.

If the intention, in French, was to say 'pierced' or 'perforated', would not the auther have used percé(es) or transpercé(es)?

Bombé, and becqué, in the sense of bulging and (in)dented make absolute sense as opposites.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

There's

really not a lot of becqué about, but if this text is to be believed, and has been correctly translated, it is "buckling", or at the very least a particular type of can buckling, in a particular location, due to a particular reason.

Corps de boîte avec BECQUETS
• Etat BECQUÉ ou tordu sous le serti fini
• L’une des causes possibles est une pression excessive de la plaque de base
[see picture; in " Fermetures pour sertis de conteneurs en métal et plastique"
http://www.usda.ma/cfv_serti_f.pdf
Can Body BUCKLING
• BUCKLED or twisted condition under finished seam
• One possible cause is excessive baseplate pressure
http://www.usda.ma/cfv_serti.pdf


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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-04-22 12:27:03 GMT)
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The articles will tell you more than you'll ever need to know about food cans!

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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-04-22 13:47:48 GMT)
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The author of the article (presumably in English originally), btw, is one Raymond H. Carroll of Campringringringmy-ooo-ooo Soups who appears to be something of an expert on canned-food safety.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Claire Nolan : Nice find. Actually, I should have said 'M-M-good find'.
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