Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
argumentaire
English translation:
synopsis
Added to glossary by
Magen O'Farrell
Oct 24, 2007 09:06
16 yrs ago
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French term
argumentaire
French to English
Art/Literary
Cinema, Film, TV, Drama
"Argumentaire" is used as the heading of the first page of a five page presentation of a documentary film on the subject of an archaeological excavation.
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +4 | synopsis | Melissa McMahon |
4 +4 | presentation | Diane de Cicco |
3 +1 | introduction | annaval |
5 -1 | The argument | Gaetan Essoo |
3 -1 | pitch | Martin Cassell |
2 -1 | Written Defense | MatthewLaSon |
Proposed translations
+4
39 mins
Selected
synopsis
If it's a kind of short outline of the content of the rest of the doc (for those who won't read all five pages), I'd go for "synopsis". It's the same meaning as "pitch", but a bit more what you'd find on a written document I think.
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Note added at 41 mins (2007-10-24 09:48:38 GMT)
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Nb. very common term in the film industry, eg:
Bowling for Columbine : About the Film : Synopsis
Film Synopsis · Film One Sheet · Credits · Dedicated · Theaters · DVD. About The Film Synopsis Written, Produced & Directed by Michael Moore. Produced by ...
www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/about/synopsis.php
It's A Wonderful Life (1946)
Review, plot synopsis and discussion of the film.
www.filmsite.org/itsa.html
American Gypsy: The Film
The Film. Jump to: Film Synopsis Full Description · Technical Specs · Pictures · Quotes · Glossary · Order a Copy of the Film. Interview with Jasmine Dellal ...
www.americangypsy.com/the_film/index.html
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Note added at 41 mins (2007-10-24 09:48:38 GMT)
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Nb. very common term in the film industry, eg:
Bowling for Columbine : About the Film : Synopsis
Film Synopsis · Film One Sheet · Credits · Dedicated · Theaters · DVD. About The Film Synopsis Written, Produced & Directed by Michael Moore. Produced by ...
www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/about/synopsis.php
It's A Wonderful Life (1946)
Review, plot synopsis and discussion of the film.
www.filmsite.org/itsa.html
American Gypsy: The Film
The Film. Jump to: Film Synopsis Full Description · Technical Specs · Pictures · Quotes · Glossary · Order a Copy of the Film. Interview with Jasmine Dellal ...
www.americangypsy.com/the_film/index.html
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Diane de Cicco
: Yes
0 min
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Oh dear - sorry Diane - will cancel
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agree |
Martin Cassell
: also good
1 hr
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thanks - I think Diane actually pipped me though
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agree |
Ingeborg Gowans (X)
: would be my preference
1 hr
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thanks - I think Diane actually pipped me though
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agree |
jean-jacques alexandre
8 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you. I think this is the best translation in the context of a film summary. Presentation seems good too, but not specific to this context."
+1
16 mins
introduction
introduction
argumentaire is a presentation of a product that must be sold,
but I didn't find any equivalent term in English
Introduction can be a solution.
argumentaire is a presentation of a product that must be sold,
but I didn't find any equivalent term in English
Introduction can be a solution.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Martin Cassell
: much more native EN than "presentation"
12 mins
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Thank you Martin
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-1
31 mins
pitch
this is the film industry term ... otherwise you're back with the generics like "overview": or just read the section concerned and make your own mind up!
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
veratek
: in my understanding, pitch refers to the entire presentation, in fact, more precisely, to the act itself of trying to sell, not a chapter, nor simply a text
14 hrs
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you may be right: perhaps I'm overapplying in the same way as "presentation" gets overapplied? Still, "pitch" does also get used more abstractly, to mean "the key selling points", so it seemed a possibility here.
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+4
11 mins
presentation
as you yourself so rightly say to describe what it is
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Note added at 37 mins (2007-10-24 09:43:48 GMT)
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another possibility is SYNOPSIS
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Note added at 37 mins (2007-10-24 09:43:48 GMT)
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another possibility is SYNOPSIS
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Shaila Kamath
2 mins
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Thanks
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neutral |
Martin Cassell
: "presentation" is so often carried 'as is' over from the FR, and rarely sounds natural to me in EN; it doesn't feel like a native usage here.
22 mins
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I don't agree but given that it is for a film, the word "synopsis" may actually be more appropriate here
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agree |
Melissa McMahon
: with synopsis
31 mins
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No problem Melissa
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agree |
B D Finch
: Synopsis
4 hrs
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Thanks
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agree |
veratek
: synopsis
14 hrs
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Thanks
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-1
3 hrs
The argument
This is what I use.
From Oxford University Press :
argument
argument, in the specialized literary sense, a brief summary of the plot or subject‐matter of a long poem (or other work), such as those prefixed to the books of Milton's Paradise Lost; or, in a sense closer to everyday usage, the set of opinions expounded in a work (especially in didactic works) and capable of being paraphrased as a logical sequence of propositions.
From Oxford University Press :
argument
argument, in the specialized literary sense, a brief summary of the plot or subject‐matter of a long poem (or other work), such as those prefixed to the books of Milton's Paradise Lost; or, in a sense closer to everyday usage, the set of opinions expounded in a work (especially in didactic works) and capable of being paraphrased as a logical sequence of propositions.
-1
20 hrs
Written Defense
Hello,
I could be wrong, that's how I understand it.
argumentaire = liste d'arguments
I hope this helps.
I could be wrong, that's how I understand it.
argumentaire = liste d'arguments
I hope this helps.
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Martin Cassell
: really doesn't seem to belong to the appropriate « domaine »
4 hrs
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I agree that it seems strange in this context. But, I can't be convinced of anything without doing more research.
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Discussion
[N. m.] Document utilisé par le vendeur, contenant l'ensemble des arguments de vente. Rédiger un argumentaire. »