Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
documents iconographiques
English translation:
visual source material
Added to glossary by
Helen Shiner
Apr 28, 2016 19:47
8 yrs ago
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French term
France
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documents iconographiques
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Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Vincent Van Gogh\'s former residence
"Il y a un an encore, seule sa façade avait été préservée en l’état original.
Le reste de la maison nécessitait un travail méticuleux de reconstruction que rend possible les documents iconographiques existants."
Photos? Plans?
Le reste de la maison nécessitait un travail méticuleux de reconstruction que rend possible les documents iconographiques existants."
Photos? Plans?
Proposed translations
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| 4 +6 | visual source material |
Helen Shiner
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| 4 +1 | images |
Lisa Jane
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Change log
May 12, 2016 06:44: Helen Shiner Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Helen Shiner
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visual source material
It sounds to me that they are using surviving visual source material to restore the rooms in Van Gogh's home to its original state of decoration. The 'iconographique' here refers to a visual source rather than a written one.
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Note added at 11 mins (2016-04-28 19:58:35 GMT)
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*its* should read *their*.
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Note added at 11 mins (2016-04-28 19:58:35 GMT)
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*its* should read *their*.
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Peer comment(s):
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Charles Davis
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Thanks, Charles
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Daryo
: http://heritage.csdecou.qc.ca/lyth/les-types-de-documents-ic...
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Thanks, Daryo
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David Vaughn
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Thanks, David
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B D Finch
: With the (possibly nit-picking) reservation that reading written documents is also visual.// I did mention that I might be nit-picking. The accepted use of words isn't always 100% logical.
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Thanks, though here it is quite clear they are looking at visual evidence of how the rooms looked during Van Gogh's lifetime. Iconography is exclusively to do with imagery and its transmission, as I am sure you know.
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Lara Barnett
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Thanks, Lara
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katsy
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Thanks,katsy
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Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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images
as in -the current images (of the house). Images covers photos, sketches, plans, paintings and any other 'visual' documents which I think the term iconographiques is trying to cover so I would go for this general term if the context is of no further help
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David Vaughn
: existing images, surviving images
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Thanks David:)
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Helen Shiner
: Iconography is to do with the convention of imagery, its passing from one image to another, the tradition of the same motif used through time, so 'images' alone misses this aspect of the surviving images, their nature as*source*/No, that doesn't cover it.
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yes I know that's what iconography is but here iconographic docs. is together with 'existants' which conveys the 'source' meaning you suggest. I mean existing images as David suggests. Ok thanks Helen.
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Discussion
The house referred to is in Wasmes (now Colfontaine) in Belgium and the text dates from last year or possibly 2014.