Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
doré au fer
English translation:
tooled in gold/gilt tooling (on a book binding)
Added to glossary by
Christopher Crockett
Feb 9, 2006 15:24
18 yrs ago
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French term
doré au fer
French to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Description of a binding for a copy of the Qur'an from the 13th century. Morocco.
"Matériaux et techniques: cuir gauffré et doré au fer"
Thanks.
"Matériaux et techniques: cuir gauffré et doré au fer"
Thanks.
Proposed translations
(English)
2 | tooled in gold/gilt tooling | Christopher Crockett |
4 +1 | with gold stamping | Oli |
4 +1 | gilt embossed | Dr Sue Levy (X) |
2 | hot gilded | Tony M |
Proposed translations
34 mins
French term (edited):
dor� au fer
Selected
tooled in gold/gilt tooling
I've never seen this term before, but it seems to me that the "fer" here might refer to the iron tools which are used to apply the designs --in this case with gold leaf added (as opposed to "blind tooled" decoration, which has no gold or other colored material added to the indentations made by the tooling).
"gauffré", i believe, referrs to a certain kind of decoration, usually applied (in Western bindings) to the gilded *edges* of books, which are called "Goffered edges".
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I was just speaking off the top of my head, regarding "goffered edges" --I know them when I see them, but don't know the precise definition.
Here's the OED on the subject:
[f. GOFFER v. + -ED1.]
1. Of frills, etc.: Fluted, crimped.
2. Bookbinding and Printing. Embossed or impressed with ornamental figures, esp. goffered edges. (Also in Fr. form gaufré.)
1866 Bookseller's Catal., Sternhold's Psalms, 1649..in contemporary embroidered binding..gauffered edges.
1879 Print. Trades Jrnl. XXVI. 13 The tops of each card are shaped and goffered.
1894 BRASSINGTON Bookbinding xii. 166 Henry VIII of England had many of his books adorned with gilt and gauffered edges.
1895 J. W. ZAEHNSDORF Short Hist. Bookbinding 24 Gaufre Edges, impressions made with the tools of the finishers on the gilt edges of a book.
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And the OED on "goffer/gauffer":
[ad. F. gaufrer to stamp or impress figures on cloth, paper, etc. with tools on which the required pattern is cut, f. gaufre honeycomb (see GOFER1). The usual sense of the English word is in French expressed by gauffrer à la paille.]
trans. To make wavy by means of heated goffering-irons; to flute or crimp (the edge of lace, a frill, or trimming of any kind).
So, it seems that it isn't just a matter of *any* sort of tooling, but "frilly" designs only.
"gauffré", i believe, referrs to a certain kind of decoration, usually applied (in Western bindings) to the gilded *edges* of books, which are called "Goffered edges".
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Note added at 44 mins (2006-02-09 16:08:59 GMT)
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I was just speaking off the top of my head, regarding "goffered edges" --I know them when I see them, but don't know the precise definition.
Here's the OED on the subject:
[f. GOFFER v. + -ED1.]
1. Of frills, etc.: Fluted, crimped.
2. Bookbinding and Printing. Embossed or impressed with ornamental figures, esp. goffered edges. (Also in Fr. form gaufré.)
1866 Bookseller's Catal., Sternhold's Psalms, 1649..in contemporary embroidered binding..gauffered edges.
1879 Print. Trades Jrnl. XXVI. 13 The tops of each card are shaped and goffered.
1894 BRASSINGTON Bookbinding xii. 166 Henry VIII of England had many of his books adorned with gilt and gauffered edges.
1895 J. W. ZAEHNSDORF Short Hist. Bookbinding 24 Gaufre Edges, impressions made with the tools of the finishers on the gilt edges of a book.
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Note added at 46 mins (2006-02-09 16:10:47 GMT)
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And the OED on "goffer/gauffer":
[ad. F. gaufrer to stamp or impress figures on cloth, paper, etc. with tools on which the required pattern is cut, f. gaufre honeycomb (see GOFER1). The usual sense of the English word is in French expressed by gauffrer à la paille.]
trans. To make wavy by means of heated goffering-irons; to flute or crimp (the edge of lace, a frill, or trimming of any kind).
So, it seems that it isn't just a matter of *any* sort of tooling, but "frilly" designs only.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "It looks to me like 'tool' is the key word. Thanks a lot. "
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52 mins
French term (edited):
dor� au fer
with gold stamping
Deconstruct, research... bookbinding, gold leaf, stamping, rare books
Termium+ gives:
doré à chaud = hot stamped in gold but I wasn't convinced...
while le grand dictionnaire terminologique, defines 'dorer' in the field of leatherwork as:
Imprimer un motif décoratif ayant l'apparence de l'or sur une surface, au moyen d'une presse chauffante et de gabarits appropriés, à partir d'une feuille métallique mince.
Plus, I found:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&oi=definer&q=define:h...
But I found gold stamping to be the most likely candidate, try:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q="gold stamping"
which the following as an authoritative link:
http://bindings.lib.ua.edu/gallery/silvergold.html.
HTH
Oli
Termium+ gives:
doré à chaud = hot stamped in gold but I wasn't convinced...
while le grand dictionnaire terminologique, defines 'dorer' in the field of leatherwork as:
Imprimer un motif décoratif ayant l'apparence de l'or sur une surface, au moyen d'une presse chauffante et de gabarits appropriés, à partir d'une feuille métallique mince.
Plus, I found:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&oi=definer&q=define:h...
But I found gold stamping to be the most likely candidate, try:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q="gold stamping"
which the following as an authoritative link:
http://bindings.lib.ua.edu/gallery/silvergold.html.
HTH
Oli
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Dr Sue Levy (X)
: yes this is what I finally decided on too http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/leather/plwt.ht...
26 mins
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45 mins
French term (edited):
dor� au fer
gilt embossed
see pics
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/dres/dres6.html
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dorure au fer: http://www.reliureploton.fr/dorure.htm
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/dres/dres6.html
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dorure au fer: http://www.reliureploton.fr/dorure.htm
1 hr
French term (edited):
dor� au fer
hot gilded
I believe this term actually does exist, I have a recollection of it from my arty days.
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