Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
autres précédents que forestiers
English translation:
land that was not previously forested
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David BUICK
Aug 22, 2008 15:26
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French term
autres précédents que forestiers
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From a book on cocoa, talking about the situation in Ghana.
I realize I am quite tired, but I have to admit, I am having trouble with the entire last sentence. I will post two separate questions.
I found precedent in a farming context to mean preceding crops or first crops, or is it the idea of crops based on criteria other than forest land?
Le problème de la
rémunération du planteur devient crucial pour le développement durable des filières
cacaoyères quand on arrive à l’épuisement de leurs terres d’élection : les forêts. À la fois se
pose le défi de l’installation, plus chère, sur d’autres précédents que forestiers, et celui de
l’augmentation des rendements du verger existant par le biais d’utilisation d’intrants.
I realize I am quite tired, but I have to admit, I am having trouble with the entire last sentence. I will post two separate questions.
I found precedent in a farming context to mean preceding crops or first crops, or is it the idea of crops based on criteria other than forest land?
Le problème de la
rémunération du planteur devient crucial pour le développement durable des filières
cacaoyères quand on arrive à l’épuisement de leurs terres d’élection : les forêts. À la fois se
pose le défi de l’installation, plus chère, sur d’autres précédents que forestiers, et celui de
l’augmentation des rendements du verger existant par le biais d’utilisation d’intrants.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +4 | land that was not previously forested |
David BUICK
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| 4 | on forests lands previously cultivated |
MatthewLaSon
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| 3 | preceding crop other than forests |
Jean-Louis S.
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Aug 23, 2008 17:36: David BUICK Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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land that was not previously forested
"previously forested land" seems common
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Note added at 23 mins (2008-08-22 15:50:01 GMT)
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Um, I think "land that was not previously forested" means that there were never any forests there. Which is I think what this text means. There are not further opportunities for using land where forest once stood, so they have to use land other than previously forested land, like the local cricket pitch or something.
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Note added at 23 mins (2008-08-22 15:50:01 GMT)
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Um, I think "land that was not previously forested" means that there were never any forests there. Which is I think what this text means. There are not further opportunities for using land where forest once stood, so they have to use land other than previously forested land, like the local cricket pitch or something.
Note from asker:
| Thanks Eutychus, that sounded most natural to my ears when I was first tackling this sentence, but since the forests have been all exhausted, I don't see how they can move to land that was not forested, since it no longer exists. Don't know if I'm making sense here... :-) |
| Yes, of course, now I see. Oh, dear. I think I need a break - I was reading forested as DEforested in my head. Thanks very much for your help!! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Jean-Louis S.
4 mins
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| agree |
Mark Nathan
: other land that was not previously forested
5 hrs
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| agree |
Catherine CHAUVIN
17 hrs
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| agree |
B D Finch
19 hrs
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Comment: "This sounds clearest to me. Thanks to everyone for your help with this tricky sentence!"
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preceding crop other than forests
it is preceding/previous crop (although a forest might not be considered a crop in all contexts)
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
MatthewLaSon
: I agree with your understanding, but not your translation.
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Thank you Matthew!
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on forests lands previously cultivated
Hello,
sur d'autres précédents que forestiers = on lands where other crops have grown other than natural forest land vegetation
précédents = where previous crops have grown (now to be considered before planting the cacao bean plants)
The soil is used to the "previous crops". It's better not to plant on forest grounds that have never been cultivated before.
A little tricky, that one!
I hope this helps.
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Note added at 1 day9 hrs (2008-08-24 01:01:11 GMT) Post-grading
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Disregard everything I said above except for my translation.
The meaning, so it seems, is that the cocoa bean farmers are being forced into buying forest land that has already been cultivated because virgin forest land is becoming very scarce. The problem then is that land that's already been cultivated is more expensive. Honestly, though, I don't know why.
sur d'autres précédents que forestiers = on lands where other crops have grown other than natural forest land vegetation
précédents = where previous crops have grown (now to be considered before planting the cacao bean plants)
The soil is used to the "previous crops". It's better not to plant on forest grounds that have never been cultivated before.
A little tricky, that one!
I hope this helps.
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Note added at 1 day9 hrs (2008-08-24 01:01:11 GMT) Post-grading
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Disregard everything I said above except for my translation.
The meaning, so it seems, is that the cocoa bean farmers are being forced into buying forest land that has already been cultivated because virgin forest land is becoming very scarce. The problem then is that land that's already been cultivated is more expensive. Honestly, though, I don't know why.
Note from asker:
| Your post-grading note was extremely helpful, Matthew. Thank you. |
Discussion
Have a nice day, French Foodie.
I hope this brings some clarity.