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Swedish term

omloppstid

Swedish to English Law/Patents Human Resources
Hello

I've already had some help and so I know that in the context I have (employment, working hours), ***omloppstid*** is:

"the worked time plus any dead time between different parts of the worked time."

Albeit I'm not sure what dead time this might be for a Stockholm Metro train driver

Maybe getting into uniform, picking up their train planning etc.

But what do we call this "extra time" in English please?

Thanks

Discussion

SafeTex (asker) Feb 21, 2023:
@ all Hello

This is proving quite hard partly due to a number of possibilities being used already elsewhere to mean something else.
I've therefore chosen "rotation" time, partly because "rotation" is not a word that I can see already in the TM, partly 'cos it's not completely unclear as to what it means
But thanks for your help anyway
Tim Kynerd Feb 17, 2023:
A little more info I just wanted to add that in Stockholm local public transport (possibly not the pendeltåg/commuter trains, which I think use mainline railway terminology more), a round trip is referred to as a "varv" and "omlopp" refers to the entire length of a shift, from start to finish. For example, when I worked on the Blue Line of the Stockholm metro, I might say, "Jag har tre raka varv på tian, jag ser inte solen alls!" ("I have three round trips in a row on line 10 [Kungsträdgården-Hjulsta, entirely underground], I won't see the sun at all!")
SafeTex (asker) Feb 17, 2023:
@all Thanks everyone for your help and Tim's confirmation of what it is makes me feel better. I have still not decided yet what to use but "turnaround time" does not work as that is already used for the "turnaround time" of trains at turning platforms. And as someone said it's more than the "round TRIP time"
At present, I have "rotation time" but I may change it. I'll let you know soon.
Thanks again everyone
Tim Kynerd Feb 13, 2023:
Voice of experience :-) I don't have a good translation to offer, but I have worked as a metro driver in Stockholm.

The extra activities can include arriving at work, picking up timetable and tools, etc. before a shift; preparing a train for service before a shift (this usually isn't included, but occasionally is); traveling between locations during a shift (not operating the train, just riding); and returning items (timetable, tools) after a shift. This may not be an exhaustive list; it's just the things I can think of right now.

Proposed translations

2 hrs

service time

Declined
Maybe OK for BrE - rather than US AmE or OzE - train-driving consumption.

Otherwise, I can't recall from my own UK export clerking or law timesheet days any option to show or 'plug' idle time into the roster.
Example sentence:

IATE: sv omloppstid COM en turnaround time COM turn-about time COM reversal time COM turn-around time

Clear view on service time Through the Service Time Manager application, planners receive detailed real-time information about the service times (driving, *waiting* and working) of drivers.

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2 hrs

round trip time

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the entire period of time, including time waiting, maybe lunch, (term is new to me) lunch maybe?

mom 8 Ramtid ***(omloppstid) ****vid linjetrafik
Vid linjetrafik skall ramtiden (omloppstiden) vara högst 13 timmar om inte annat
lokalt överenskommes.
I tjänst som till någon del innehåller körning på linje där linjens längd överstiger
50 km får dock ramtiden även utan lokal överenskommelse uppgå till 13,5 timmar. Detsamma gäller tjänst som till någon del innehåller skoltrafik. Med skoltrafik menas i detta avseende även linjetrafik som är tillgänglig för allmänheten om
trafiken upprätthålles enbart på skoldagar.

wikipedia svenska Omloppstid (linjetrafik) – den tid det tar att fullborda en tur och återkomma till utgångspunkten.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2023-02-12 21:01:51 GMT)
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links https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omloppstid


Example sentence:

In the case of regular services, the framework time (round trip time) shall not exceed 13 hours unless otherwise agreed locally.

TD wikii....Round trip time (regular service) - the time taken to complete a trip and return to the starting point. Linguee Traduction Assistee Ordinateur

Peer comment(s):

disagree Tim Kynerd : I would interpret "round trip time" as the time taken to make a single round trip. A typical shift on the Stockholm Metro lasts longer than that.
11 hrs
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4 days

turnaround time

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I just think that turnaround time is more versatile than the two proposals you have received, even though neither of them is wrong.
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