Glossary entry

Arabic term or phrase:

الاحرف الشمسية والقمرية

English translation:

sun and moon letters

Added to glossary by duraid
Jan 3, 2008 11:08
16 yrs ago
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Arabic term

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sun and moon letters

this is how it is taught to us non-Arabs. It is then explained as letters that assimilate and those that don't after "al".
BTW, I've never heard of them called "solar" or "lunar" letters as in the link below...sounds a bit esoteric to me
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agree Ghada Samir
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agree Abdallah Ali
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agree Saleh Dardeer
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disagree Mustafa Fadhel : The word sun is mentioned here cos; it starts with the sound "sh" in Arabic from “shams” and if you use sun you will start with the sound "s" and same for moon in Arabic "qamaar" so if you want to translate you have to go fro meaning of context. And I am
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I don't get your point - we don't these kinds of letters at all in English, hence the concept cannot make sense unless it is explained. This is how it is taught to students in the English-speaking world and an English translation was requested
agree ArabInk : Yes, this is the standard translation, but depending on your purposes you might address Mustafa's point by explaining that "sun" and "moon" are chosen because a) they're a binary pair and b) their first letters represent the two phonological classes.
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yes, some kind of explanation of what they do would need to be given
agree Steve Booth : this is what we call these letters when teaching English speakers it is also the name given to them in many of not all grammar books
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agree Mohamed Ghazal : According to Al-Mawrid
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agree kifahl
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agree Mohsin Alabdali
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agree Ahmed Ahmed : http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/arts/languagecentre/academic/m...
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Words with silent (ل “L” sound such as الشمسية) and Words with full (ل “L” sound such as القمر

Words with silent (ل “L” sound such as الشمسية) and Words with full (ل “L” sound such as القمر
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lunar and solar assimilation letters

based on whether or not they assimilate with the ﻝ (l) of a preceding article.
Example sentence:

common example of assimilation would be "don't be silly"

Peer comment(s):

disagree Mustafa Fadhel : the sound what mattters here not the words
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assimilation means sound, any thanks
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Assimilated, and non assimilated Arabic Definite Article “AL”

my point is that the initial sound of the sun and moon in Arabic what matters here and not the meaning of the words. so we I think it's wrong to say moon and sun.

and if you want to explain to non Arabic speaking taught him the sun ones only for it is easer. d,D,DH,dh, t, T, th, the, s,S, sh, z, l, m .
Example sentence:

ممكن ان نكتب الشمس و ننطق اشمس او الشمس و لكن غير ممكن ان ننطق اقمر بل القمر كتاية و لفظاً

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neutral Mohamed Ghazal : Hi Mustafa, The fact that you have an answer posted implies that you disagree with the answers already posted. So, I don't think adding a "disagree" to their answers adds a lot. On the contrary, I personally think it's border-line wrong. Have a good one.
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